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Bigger threat to Florida than a Category 5 Hurricane


(11-07-2018, 10:28 AM)rfc17 Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 10:04 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: These results do not bode well for Donald and the Republicans in 2020.

In Florida The Lap Dog barely, barely won even though he was attached at the hip to Donald and Fox News. Against a black man that no one outside of Tallahassee had even heard of six months ago. Who was called a Socialist by the right-wing press. Not good.

In Texas, the man no one likes, Ted Cruz - the man who sold his soul and kissed Donald's [BLEEP] - barely, barely won to a man no one had even heard of six months ago. In red state Texas. No good.

A black woman - let me say that again: a black woman - almost won in Georgia. In Georgia. The Richard Nixon/ George Wallace/ Donald Trump southern strategy is starting to fall apart.

In 2020 the Senate map is not favorable to Republicans, just as the map was not favorable to Dems in 2018. Expect to see a number of elderly Repubs retire before their re-election race.

It breaks my heart to know punk Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes and the other yahoos will now reap what they sowed. Hope they enjoy reading Donald's tax returns. Chaos and confusion will reign.

Cruz isn't very popular in Texas though.  He routinely polls 10-15% behind Gov Abbott.  If Texas had an Abbott like person running for Senate, Beto would have been obliterated.  

Georgia isn't officially done.  A few last minute ballots may come in and push Kemp under 50% triggering a runoff.  It's likely he would win that but it's close.  But you seem surprised a black woman almost won.  I'm not.  That would fair much better with the left than a liberal white guy.  Especially in a place like Georgia.

I realize that Texas is a super conservative state, but how could anyone vote for a spineless worm like Cruz? Trump called him everything but a white man during the campaign. He insulted his entire family, implicated his father in the Kennedy assassination and generally made him look like a complete joke, yet Cruz still kisses the president's butt like a coward. It's sickening. Policies aside, as a man, I have no respect for that guy what so ever. He's such a brown-nosing weasel with no pride or self respect what so ever. It's like he enjoys being a doormat. I could never vote for a guy like that, Republican, Democrat or Independent.
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(11-07-2018, 08:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 07:57 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: The only saving grace from this election is we managed to keep a socialist out of the governor's mansion.  The recount should confirm that we kept another swamp leftist out of the Senate.  I was actually pretty concerned with this election thinking that the "me too" and "give me more free stuff" crowd might have pulled it off.

I personally wasn't crazy about DeSantis for governor, but the alternative was MUCH worse.

As far as the amendments that were on the ballot, I'm disappointed.  The only ones that should have passed are 1 and 2.  All others should have been rejected but they weren't by the low information voter crowd.

Amendment 4 should've been called the "Democratic Voter Enfranchisement Amendment."

Ironically no one mentioned that the same electorate that rejected Gillum passed this amendment.  And they never seem to mention that Stand your ground is used most often by African Americans in defense of family members.
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(11-08-2018, 01:58 AM)jj82284 Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 08:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Amendment 4 should've been called the "Democratic Voter Enfranchisement Amendment."

Ironically no one mentioned that the same electorate that rejected Gillum passed this amendment.  And they never seem to mention that Stand your ground is used most often by African Americans in defense of family members.

A election season that split 50/50 pretty much guaranteed it won't happen next time.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-07-2018, 06:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 06:02 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: He didn't say they didn't spend a lot of money. He's saying that Democrats flooded the races with a lot of money and still lost.

Cruz didn't win by a large margin because he's not as popular after running against Trump. If you go down the line, Republicans won by an average of 8.5% in Texas. The freaking land commissioner got more votes than Cruz did. The 2.6% lead says more about Cruz's popularity than it does about Texas turning blue.  I'd bet if Abbott was on the ballot for Senator than it wouldn't even have been close.

Those claims of voter suppression are desperate attempts to justify a runoff and to motivate the minority community. He's following state and federal guidelines. He's not picking-and-choosing which groups to dismiss. The registration forms simply don't meet requirements. 


He pushed her arm away. He didn't simply say "excuse me".  

Trump has denounced racism and bigotry. You guys just want him to label everything white people do as racist and those that do it as white nationalists, so when he doesn't do that, you claim he isn't denouncing it.

What'ta ya mean "you guys", we don't know what Xamies wants to be known as.

Do you have anything useful to say anymore?
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It appears this category 5 hurricane isn't over yet.
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(11-08-2018, 01:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: It appears this category 5 hurricane isn't over yet.

Did they find some dead people who haven't voted yet?
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(11-08-2018, 09:21 AM)TJBender Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 06:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: What'ta ya mean "you guys", we don't know what Xamies wants to be known as.

Do you have anything useful to say anymore?

Useful is in the eye of the listener.

(11-08-2018, 01:18 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 01:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: It appears this category 5 hurricane isn't over yet.

Did they find some dead people who haven't voted yet?

It's the only way they can win.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-08-2018, 01:18 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 01:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: It appears this category 5 hurricane isn't over yet.

Did they find some dead people who haven't voted yet?

Gillum's campaign conceded and they won't be recanting it anytime soon. The recount, if it happens at all, will be a procedural matter.

Nelson is whining about the way votes in Miami and the surrounding areas were counted, and he wants a hand recount because the margin is currently within 0.25%. I mean, technically, that's how the law is written in Florida, so his request is not unreasonable.

But, I mean, he did lose.
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(11-08-2018, 05:02 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 01:18 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Did they find some dead people who haven't voted yet?

Gillum's campaign conceded and they won't be recanting it anytime soon. The recount, if it happens at all, will be a procedural matter.

Nelson is whining about the way votes in Miami and the surrounding areas were counted, and he wants a hand recount because the margin is currently within 0.25%. I mean, technically, that's how the law is written in Florida, so his request is not unreasonable.

But, I mean, he did lose.

Seeing as the guy is like 110 years old and has always been an empty suit, him losing to one of the greatest governors our state has seen in a long time is probably not a bad thing.

So, 2 days after election, Broward county is "slow dripping" additional votes? Man, this sounds extremely shady from a historically corrupt voting county.
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(11-07-2018, 08:15 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 10:28 AM)rfc17 Wrote: Cruz isn't very popular in Texas though.  He routinely polls 10-15% behind Gov Abbott.  If Texas had an Abbott like person running for Senate, Beto would have been obliterated.  

Georgia isn't officially done.  A few last minute ballots may come in and push Kemp under 50% triggering a runoff.  It's likely he would win that but it's close.  But you seem surprised a black woman almost won.  I'm not.  That would fair much better with the left than a liberal white guy.  Especially in a place like Georgia.

I realize that Texas is a super conservative state, but how could anyone vote for a spineless worm like Cruz? Trump called him everything but a white man during the campaign. He insulted his entire family, implicated his father in the Kennedy assassination and generally made him look like a complete joke, yet Cruz still kisses the president's butt like a coward. It's sickening. Policies aside, as a man, I have no respect for that guy what so ever. He's such a brown-nosing weasel with no pride or self respect what so ever. It's like he enjoys being a doormat. I could never vote for a guy like that, Republican, Democrat or Independent.

Well then thank God that you don't live in this state.
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(11-08-2018, 05:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 05:02 PM)TJBender Wrote: Gillum's campaign conceded and they won't be recanting it anytime soon. The recount, if it happens at all, will be a procedural matter.

Nelson is whining about the way votes in Miami and the surrounding areas were counted, and he wants a hand recount because the margin is currently within 0.25%. I mean, technically, that's how the law is written in Florida, so his request is not unreasonable.

But, I mean, he did lose.

Seeing as the guy is like 110 years old and has always been an empty suit, him losing to one of the greatest governors our state has seen in a long time is probably not a bad thing.

So, 2 days after election, Broward county is "slow dripping" additional votes? Man, this sounds extremely shady from a historically corrupt voting county.

If we could just get those pesky 80-year-olds to stop trying to eat their ballots...
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(11-08-2018, 05:41 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 05:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Seeing as the guy is like 110 years old and has always been an empty suit, him losing to one of the greatest governors our state has seen in a long time is probably not a bad thing.

So, 2 days after election, Broward county is "slow dripping" additional votes? Man, this sounds extremely shady from a historically corrupt voting county.

If we could just get those pesky 80-year-olds to stop trying to eat their ballots...

I'm in the camp of if you can't follow directions when filling out a ballot, you probably shouldn't be voting anyway.

Then again, I kind of hope this gains some traction. More ammo for The Don to use.
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(11-08-2018, 05:44 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 05:41 PM)TJBender Wrote: If we could just get those pesky 80-year-olds to stop trying to eat their ballots...

I'm in the camp of if you can't follow directions when filling out a ballot, you probably shouldn't be voting anyway.

Then again, I kind of hope this gains some traction. More ammo for The Don to use.

It's already got traction, per state law. Six different races are within half a percent with absentee ballots yet to be counted. Only Bill Nelson has actually put out a statement calling for a recount directly. Gillum has put out a half-hearted statement about every vote counting, but isn't making a big deal of it and doesn't expect the result to change per the news over here. He's hired the attorney that represented George W. Bush in 2000, though, so maybe he's expecting things to get closer? No one else, as far as I can tell, has made an noise or fuss to this point.

As of right now, no one's demanding anything that state law doesn't grant them anyway, which raises the painfully obvious questions about why Nelson is demanding a hand recount in Miami, Palm Beach and Broward when state law grants him a hand recount statewide anyway at this point. Either he's counting on finding 75,000 or so votes from people who tried to punch a hole in their ballot instead of filling in the circle, or he's hoping that a hand recount is a bit more...ahem..."favorable" for him than a machine count in those areas would be.

As long as the candidates get what they're legally entitled to in terms of a recount, I don't much care beyond that. If things get thrown into the courts for a month again, I'm going to be all in favor of just taking away the right of all Florida residents to vote, because we clearly don't understand the simple concept of "fill in the damn circle".
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(11-08-2018, 05:39 PM)TurndownforWatt Wrote:
(11-07-2018, 08:15 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I realize that Texas is a super conservative state, but how could anyone vote for a spineless worm like Cruz? Trump called him everything but a white man during the campaign. He insulted his entire family, implicated his father in the Kennedy assassination and generally made him look like a complete joke, yet Cruz still kisses the president's butt like a coward. It's sickening. Policies aside, as a man, I have no respect for that guy what so ever. He's such a brown-nosing weasel with no pride or self respect what so ever. It's like he enjoys being a doormat. I could never vote for a guy like that, Republican, Democrat or Independent.

Well then thank God that you don't live in this state.

Seriously, how can you respect a man like that? I really wanna know. I just don't understand.
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Palm Beach and Browsed mysteriously found..... 93k votes.... And won't let election advisors monitor the process. WEEKS!!!
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Now Sinema is ahead in AZ.... LOL.
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Our democracy is crumbling before our very eyes.

How is Brenda Snipes not already in prison?

Maybe I am overestimating the simple way of fixing this, but how about putting the voters SSN on the ballot? Process fixed!

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We slide the ballots into scan tron machines. That should be pretty immediate
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(11-09-2018, 09:15 AM)jj82284 Wrote: We slide the ballots into scan tron machines.  That should be pretty immediate

1. Ballot slides into machine with SSN number on it.
2. SSN verified against SSN Administration to check if:
a. This person is alive
b. This person has already voted
c. This is a VALID SSN number
3. Process over.
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(This post was last modified: 11-09-2018, 09:50 AM by Jagwired.)

1. Eliminate early voting.
2. Mandatory valid photo identification with proof of residency in the district. Mandatory current voters registration card with matching address.
3. High resolution video systems at all polling locations to include ballot imaging while being filled in by voter.
4. Officers at each polling location.
Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 
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