https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/dr...ck-draft-2

Haven't seen Stanford play this year but Whiteside looks like the truth and if they think he can be a true number 1 I'd be good with it

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Good article on him

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Taking a WR when Haskins is still on the board? No way. I take Haskins 100 times out of 100 times.

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it is a mock instead of a big board, but only two QB in the first..looks like a crap class

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Taking a WR when Haskins is still on the board? No way. I take Haskins 100 times out of 100 times.

Naw, to high.  Would rather Grier in the 2nd.  I want a QB that can play under pressure.  He wont have the kind of time like he does at Ohio State like he will in the pros at he will see pressure every other snap.  Would much rather a true number 1 and Grier

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Taking a WR when Haskins is still on the board? No way. I take Haskins 100 times out of 100 times.

Naw, to high.  Would rather Grier in the 2nd.  I want a QB that can play under pressure.  He wont have the kind of time like he does at Ohio State like he will in the pros at he will see pressure every other snap.  Would much rather a true number 1 and Grier

I’ll be happy with Herbert, Haskins or Grier. I think all three will be above average NFL QBs. I also think, when it’s all said and done, that all three will be top 20 picks. As far as this particular mock, I’d take Haskins over the WR as well.

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Taking a WR when Haskins is still on the board? No way. I take Haskins 100 times out of 100 times.

Naw, to high.  Would rather Grier in the 2nd.  I want a QB that can play under pressure.  He wont have the kind of time like he does at Ohio State like he will in the pros at he will see pressure every other snap.  Would much rather a true number 1 and Grier

You must not have seen OSU play this season. They have one of the worst offensive lines in their history. They are giving up pressures on nearly every play and they can't open running lanes, despite having very talented RB's. That's why I am so impressed by Haskins. He feels the pressure coming, makes quick reads and has a very fast, accurate release. He can run if necessary, but make no mistake, he is a pocket QB. I don't see Grier as a franchise QB at all. If he were still on the board in the 3rd, I'd pass on him. Everyone has their favorites though.

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Not a fan of the top 10 WR selection honestly.
Not sure if I'd want Haskins there... but maybe.

Too high for Grier probably... trading back from 10 to the 20s would be ideal. Maybe get some draft picks back we've been wasting.
Grier at the top of round 2 would be sweet.
But even trading back and getting him at like 20 and netting an extra pick or two would be sweeter.

I get the need or perceived need of our #1 WR... but not sure we should be spending a top 10 pick on a guy.

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Just saw a CBSsports mock that had us taking Daniel Jones at 9. Haven't watched him how does he look compares to Haskins?

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Just saw a CBSsports mock that had us taking Daniel Jones at 9. Haven't watched him how does he look compares to Haskins?

That would be the reach of all reaches. Most mocks I've seen have him as a late 2nd early 3rd rounder.

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Just saw a CBSsports mock that had us taking Daniel Jones at 9. Haven't watched him how does he look compares to Haskins?

That would be the reach of all reaches. Most mocks I've seen have him as a late 2nd early 3rd rounder.

QBs always rise. If he's a 2/3 rounder now he could easily get that high, especially if the articles about scouts drooling over him are true.

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It is not a good QB class.....at all. I would rather get Jonah Williams and then a pass rusher in round 2, a guard in round 3, and a saftey in round 3

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No way they take a receiver in the first. Soward, Blackmon, Reggie Williams- need I say more? There are much greater needs than receiver even though this group underperformed badly this season. They should have enough time to evaluate the quarterbacks and offensive linemen and take one of these 2 positions in the first round. Hopefully someone other than Caldwell will be making this pick.

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It is not a good QB class.....at all. I would rather get Jonah Williams and then a pass rusher in round 2, a guard in round 3, and a saftey in round 3

I guess it all depends on which expert you ask...

If we roll into 2019 with a QB room of Blake Bortles and Cody Kessler I fear there'll be 13 reasons why we have fewer fans next season if you catch my drift.

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Can you imagine the national media crapstorm if we roll out Bortles to start next year. It would be insane.

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Can you imagine the national media crapstorm if we roll out Bortles to start next year. It would be insane.

It's very possible they do exactly that. 

They may try to hold a rookie QB out until after the 2019 bye or until the 2020 season. 
Wouldn't shock me at all unless Blake seriously flames out in more than half the remaining games this year. 
I'm not advocating it, but it isn't unlikely IMO.

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A WR is a luxury pick at this point

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It is not a good QB class.....at all. I would rather get Jonah Williams and then a pass rusher in round 2, a guard in round 3, and a saftey in round 3

I guess it all depends on which expert you ask...

If we roll into 2019 with a QB room of Blake Bortles and Cody Kessler I fear there'll be 13 reasons why we have fewer fans next season if you catch my drift.

Herbert might not even come out and Haskins might not either. I like Grier but the Big 12 is just so gung ho I never if the QB is for real, Lock has no pocket sense at all, NC State has struggled against good defenses, and the Buffalo guy looks really raw. I dont mind taking one with our 3rd pick but we are gonna have a lot of holes other than QB next year and considering the 2020 class is supposed to be absolutely LOADED dont really want to draft an ok guy that prevents us from drafting a stud in 2020

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I guess it all depends on which expert you ask...

If we roll into 2019 with a QB room of Blake Bortles and Cody Kessler I fear there'll be 13 reasons why we have fewer fans next season if you catch my drift.

Herbert might not even come out and Haskins might not either. I like Grier but the Big 12 is just so gung ho I never if the QB is for real, Lock has no pocket sense at all, NC State has struggled against good defenses, and the Buffalo guy looks really raw. I dont mind taking one with our 3rd pick but we are gonna have a lot of holes other than QB next year and considering the 2020 class is supposed to be absolutely LOADED dont really want to draft an ok guy that prevents us from drafting a stud in 2020

I believe if Herbert or Haskins receive a first round grade they'll come out.

I'm getting less and less worried about what type of schools these guys come from with the recent success of air raid QBs like Mahomes and Goff.
Just need the right coach/QB combo.
I think Finley (NC State) is a solid 1st round prospect QB honestly. And some have him as their #1 even over Herbert and Haskins.

I think Grier and Lock are both the more typical pocket QBs but ideally would be 2nd round picks. But QBs and pass rushers you over pay for often... I think they gotta pull the trigger on one of these 5 guys.

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DIdnt realize how bad Haskins is when he faces pressure. Can you imagine him on our team this year? Yikes.

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I'm getting less and less worried about what type of schools these guys come from with the recent success of air raid QBs like Mahomes and Goff.
Just need the right coach/QB combo.

I think in the past the QBs at those schools just didnt have the physical skillset but put up gaudy numbers and teams took chances.  But now you see kids who have the skillsets going to those schools and I think teams are wising up to the fact that the physical ability is just as important as the numbers.  Lots of guys at Texas Tech have put up huge numbers.  But Mahomes is one of the first that has the NFL makeup.

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DIdnt realize how bad Haskins is when he faces pressure.  Can you imagine him on our team this year?  Yikes.

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I'm getting less and less worried about what type of schools these guys come from with the recent success of air raid QBs like Mahomes and Goff.
Just need the right coach/QB combo.

I think in the past the QBs at those schools just didnt have the physical skillset but put up gaudy numbers and teams took chances.  But now you see kids who have the skillsets going to those schools and I think teams are wising up to the fact that the physical ability is just as important as the numbers.  Lots of guys at Texas Tech have put up huge numbers.  But Mahomes is one of the first that has the NFL makeup.

That's a fair point but usually the easiest knock on a college QB is the "system" he played in and whether he can translate to the NFL.
But I think it is just more important these days to design an NFL system that works for your QB.

Give me a smart coach and a kid with high completion percentage and has good enough arm strength regardless of school, record, or stats.

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