“I know they all look alike,” - A comment made by a Republican Hillary Clinton regarding black men.

“Our state director is Indian American, but he does an amazing job,”
“Our director of all constituent services -- she’s African American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine.” - Both comments made by a Republican Democrat Senator.

I wonder where the media outrage is regarding this?  Liberals always accuse conservatives of being racist yet ignore statements like these from their own.  There was such an "outrage" when Ron DeSantis said that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democrat Andrew Gillum in November.  He was falsely labeled as a racist.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

“I know they all look alike,” - A comment made by a Republican Hillary Clinton regarding black men.

“Our state director is Indian American, but he does an amazing job,”
“Our director of all constituent services -- she’s African American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine.” - Both comments made by a Republican Democrat Senator.

I wonder where the media outrage is regarding this?  Liberals always accuse conservatives of being racist yet ignore statements like these from their own.  There was such an "outrage" when Ron DeSantis said that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democrat Andrew Gillum in November.  He was falsely labeled as a racist.

Was it Maxine Waters who 'mislabeled' an Hispanic lawmaker as white, and when he corrected her she replied, 'You all look alike to us.'?

And then there's this.

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“I know they all look alike,” - A comment made by a Republican Hillary Clinton regarding black men.

“Our state director is Indian American, but he does an amazing job,”
“Our director of all constituent services -- she’s African American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine.” - Both comments made by a Republican Democrat Senator.

I wonder where the media outrage is regarding this?  Liberals always accuse conservatives of being racist yet ignore statements like these from their own.  There was such an "outrage" when Ron DeSantis said that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democrat Andrew Gillum in November.  He was falsely labeled as a racist.

Was it Maxine Waters who 'mislabeled' an Hispanic lawmaker as white, and when he corrected her she replied, 'You all look alike to us.'?

And then there's this.

I don't know the context of Waters' statement, but it is possible for someone to be both white and Hispanic. 
As for what Don Lemon said, it's true. There are a lot of white terrorists in this country. After the two shooting incidents mentioned in the article, that were less than a week ago, and both terrorism, and both by white Americans, we should not deny this, and it really should cause us more worry and angst than a bunch of poor unarmed central americans on foot who probably will settle in Mexico City like the last group did.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Lemon speaks as if there is a klan rally on every corner. What a clown. A racist clown at that. On the payroll of the biggest race baiting network of them all.

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Was it Maxine Waters who 'mislabeled' an Hispanic lawmaker as white, and when he corrected her she replied, 'You all look alike to us.'?

And then there's this.

I don't know the context of Waters' statement, but it is possible for someone to be both white and Hispanic. 
As for what Don Lemon said, it's true. There are a lot of white terrorists in this country. After the two shooting incidents mentioned in the article, that were less than a week ago, and both terrorism, and both by white Americans, we should not deny this, and it really should cause us more worry and angst than a bunch of poor unarmed central americans on foot who probably will settle in Mexico City like the last group did.

Wonder Woman’s bullet deflecting wristbands have nothing on you.

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I don't know the context of Waters' statement, but it is possible for someone to be both white and Hispanic. 
As for what Don Lemon said, it's true. There are a lot of white terrorists in this country. After the two shooting incidents mentioned in the article, that were less than a week ago, and both terrorism, and both by white Americans, we should not deny this, and it really should cause us more worry and angst than a bunch of poor unarmed central americans on foot who probably will settle in Mexico City like the last group did.

Wonder Woman’s bullet deflecting wristbands have nothing on you.

Mikeysez is an obvious racist. Lapping up Lemons words like they were gospel.

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Was it Maxine Waters who 'mislabeled' an Hispanic lawmaker as white, and when he corrected her she replied, 'You all look alike to us.'?

And then there's this.

I don't know the context of Waters' statement, but it is possible for someone to be both white and Hispanic. 
As for what Don Lemon said, it's true. There are a lot of white terrorists in this country. After the two shooting incidents mentioned in the article, that were less than a week ago, and both terrorism, and both by white Americans, we should not deny this, and it really should cause us more worry and angst than a bunch of poor unarmed central americans on foot who probably will settle in Mexico City like the last group did.

Wow.

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“I know they all look alike,” - A comment made by a Republican Hillary Clinton regarding black men.

“Our state director is Indian American, but he does an amazing job,”
“Our director of all constituent services -- she’s African American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine.” - Both comments made by a Republican Democrat Senator.

I wonder where the media outrage is regarding this?  Liberals always accuse conservatives of being racist yet ignore statements like these from their own.  There was such an "outrage" when Ron DeSantis said that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democrat Andrew Gillum in November.  He was falsely labeled as a racist.

Ron DeSantis supports people who are white supremacists..has spoken about his "admiration" for David Horowitz. So maybe he's not racist, but he doesn't have a problem with people who are clearly.

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“I know they all look alike,” - A comment made by a Republican Hillary Clinton regarding black men.

“Our state director is Indian American, but he does an amazing job,”
“Our director of all constituent services -- she’s African American, but she does an even more incredible job than you could ever imagine.” - Both comments made by a Republican Democrat Senator.

I wonder where the media outrage is regarding this?  Liberals always accuse conservatives of being racist yet ignore statements like these from their own.  There was such an "outrage" when Ron DeSantis said that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Democrat Andrew Gillum in November.  He was falsely labeled as a racist.

Ron DeSantis supports people who are white supremacists..has spoken about his "admiration" for David Horowitz. So maybe he's not racist, but he doesn't have a problem with people who are clearly.

Which white supremacists does DeSantis support?

Is the Jewish man, Horowitz, a white supremacist?

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Ron DeSantis supports people who are white supremacists..has spoken about his "admiration" for David Horowitz. So maybe he's not racist, but he doesn't have a problem with people who are clearly.

Which white supremacists does DeSantis support?

Is the Jewish man, Horowitz, a white supremacist?

The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

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Which white supremacists does DeSantis support?

Is the Jewish man, Horowitz, a white supremacist?

The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

I think the "blacks owe..." statemernt is dead on. Do you disagree?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

I think the "blacks owe..." statemernt is dead on. Do you disagree?

Oh sweet jesus you cant be [BLEEP] serious.

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I think the "blacks owe..." statemernt is dead on. Do you disagree?

Oh sweet jesus you cant be [BLEEP] serious.

I'd love to know why you disagree.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Oh sweet jesus you cant be [BLEEP] serious.

I'd love to know why you disagree.

Im gonna make this simple because I am not about to write an essay on this topic on a NFL Team forum (there are plenty online though), but how about: Black people were enslaved by the western world (or "whites") in the first place and throughout their history in the US (and other parts of the world), had to suffer from the consequences of said slavery, up until this day. After enslaving black people for about 200 years, we then treated them like lesser humans (aka [BLEEP]) for another 100+ years, and we still have issues with equality today.

The fact that some people twist this to somehow still project white people as being the superior, "bigger" race because they 'granted' black people their "freedom" and that they in turn "owe" said freedom to white people is just plain sick in my humble opinion. The phrasing of the sentence in question is disgusting.

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Blacks were enslaved in Africa by other blacks and the first slave owner in America was a black man. Lincoln did not free any slaves. Slavery remained legal in the North after the Emancipation Proclamation, and Lincoln had no jurisdiction to make law or proclamations in the South. Lincoln also believed the black man was inferior and could not co-exist with whites. He wanted the freed slaves sent back to Africa.

It seems like today's Democrats also believe blacks are inferior. Why would they lobby for special protections and advantages if they believe blacks are equal?

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The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

I think the "blacks owe..." statemernt is dead on. Do you disagree?

You're so far off the deep end that you've become shallow.

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Which white supremacists does DeSantis support?

Is the Jewish man, Horowitz, a white supremacist?

The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

So he doesn't support white supremacists?

He's also not racist because he disagrees with which race is most vulnerable to this "race war". As for the black people owing freedom to whites comment, that comment specifically addresses white people advocating, fighting, and dying to free slaves.

I'd love to know why you disagree.

Im gonna make this simple because I am not about to write an essay on this topic on a NFL Team forum (there are plenty online though), but how about: Black people were enslaved by the western world (or "whites") in the first place and throughout their history in the US (and other parts of the world), had to suffer from the consequences of said slavery, up until this day. After enslaving black people for about 200 years, we then treated them like lesser humans (aka [BLEEP]) for another 100+ years, and we still have issues with equality today.

The fact that some people twist this to somehow still project white people as being the superior, "bigger" race because they 'granted' black people their "freedom" and that they in turn "owe" said freedom to white people is just plain sick in my humble opinion. The phrasing of the sentence in question is disgusting.

That is factually incorrect. 

Africans were first enslaved by other Africans. Arabs followed them and took over much of the slavery in Africa. Then they were enslaved by Europeans. 

Around this time, by the way, an estimated 1 to 1.25 million Europeans were enslaved in Africa at the same time. This idea that Africans were the only people to suffer from slavery is absurd. They may have been on the receiving end of American slavery, but they certainly weren't the only people to be enslaved. Maybe you can explain how it was the European's fault that Africa suffers from the effects of slavery but not simultaneously the fault of other Africans and Arabs.

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The guy who says the only serious race war in the country is the one against white people? And that blacks owe their freedom to white people?  

So maybe it is better to call him a racist, than a white supremacist.

So he doesn't support white supremacists?

He's also not racist because he disagrees with which race is most vulnerable to this "race war". As for the black people owing freedom to whites comment, that comment specifically addresses white people advocating, fighting, and dying to free slaves.

Im gonna make this simple because I am not about to write an essay on this topic on a NFL Team forum (there are plenty online though), but how about: Black people were enslaved by the western world (or "whites") in the first place and throughout their history in the US (and other parts of the world), had to suffer from the consequences of said slavery, up until this day. After enslaving black people for about 200 years, we then treated them like lesser humans (aka [BLEEP]) for another 100+ years, and we still have issues with equality today.

The fact that some people twist this to somehow still project white people as being the superior, "bigger" race because they 'granted' black people their "freedom" and that they in turn "owe" said freedom to white people is just plain sick in my humble opinion. The phrasing of the sentence in question is disgusting.

That is factually incorrect. 

Africans were first enslaved by other Africans. Arabs followed them and took over much of the slavery in Africa. Then they were enslaved by Europeans. 

Around this time, by the way, an estimated 1 to 1.25 million Europeans were enslaved in Africa at the same time. This idea that Africans were the only people to suffer from slavery is absurd. They may have been on the receiving end of American slavery, but they certainly weren't the only people to be enslaved. Maybe you can explain how it was the European's fault that Africa suffers from the effects of slavery but not simultaneously the fault of other Africans and Arabs.

You are attempting to go even further back into history to pull off a tu quoque. So even if you have your history right you are committing a logical fallacy.
Slavery is wrong. It is always wrong. If I decide to buy a slave that somebody else has already captured and humiliated, and I keep that person in servitude, I am just as guilty as the original slaver. It's not like buying a big screen TV that the seller stole from your neighbor's house. a big screen TV could be owned legitimately or be stolen goods. A slave is always stolen goods.
Any discussion of slavery is also a discussion of if all humans have agency and dignity, or not.
You're trying to give the white race credit for giving the black race something that they deserved all along anyhow, and it doesn't really indicate that you understand the dignity and agency of all people in all times.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You are attempting to go even further back into history to pull off a tu quoque. So even if you have your history right you are committing a logical fallacy.
Slavery is wrong. It is always wrong. If I decide to buy a slave that somebody else has already captured and humiliated, and I keep that person in servitude, I am just as guilty as the original slaver. It's not like buying a big screen TV that the seller stole from your neighbor's house. a big screen TV could be owned legitimately or be stolen goods. A slave is always stolen goods.
Any discussion of slavery is also a discussion of if all humans have agency and dignity, or not.
You're trying to give the white race credit for giving the black race something that they deserved all along anyhow, and it doesn't really indicate that you understand the dignity and agency of all people in all times.

You misunderstood my entire post. You're getting two points confused with each other.

SignMeUpAtQB said that white people are responsible for the slavery of Africans and are suffering from the "consequences" thereafter. I disagree with that statement. I'll repeat what I said: Maybe you can explain how it was the European's fault that Africa suffers from the effects of slavery but not simultaneously the fault of other Africans and Arabs. Thus the blame would fall equally on everyone and not blames almost exclusively on whites.

Europeans can't be blamed without first blaming Africans and Arabs.  This isn't to diminish the effect of slavery but instead to show that maybe everything isn't the white man's fault. Especially since they were doing it before and are still doing it today. 

I'm not giving white people credit for something they deserved all along. I agree that they deserved it all along. I'm explaining Horowitz's point is that very few white people owned slaves, and white people as a whole are blamed for slavery. Similarly, Horowitz tried to explain that many white people fought and died to ensure that slaves were given rights. Do you think they had to do that? Horowitz is trying to say that white people voted and died for the rights of slaves. Somewhere around 1-2% of the population died fighting for their rights. You can't just dismiss that, and that is what Horowitz believed.

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You are attempting to go even further back into history to pull off a tu quoque. So even if you have your history right you are committing a logical fallacy.
Slavery is wrong. It is always wrong. If I decide to buy a slave that somebody else has already captured and humiliated, and I keep that person in servitude, I am just as guilty as the original slaver. It's not like buying a big screen TV that the seller stole from your neighbor's house. a big screen TV could be owned legitimately or be stolen goods. A slave is always stolen goods.
Any discussion of slavery is also a discussion of if all humans have agency and dignity, or not.
You're trying to give the white race credit for giving the black race something that they deserved all along anyhow, and it doesn't really indicate that you understand the dignity and agency of all people in all times.

You misunderstood my entire post. You're getting two points confused with each other.

SignMeUpAtQB said that white people are responsible for the slavery of Africans and are suffering from the "consequences" thereafter. I disagree with that statement. I'll repeat what I said: Maybe you can explain how it was the European's fault that Africa suffers from the effects of slavery but not simultaneously the fault of other Africans and Arabs. Thus the blame would fall equally on everyone and not blames almost exclusively on whites.

Europeans can't be blamed without first blaming Africans and Arabs.  This isn't to diminish the effect of slavery but instead to show that maybe everything isn't the white man's fault. Especially since they were doing it before and are still doing it today. 

I'm not giving white people credit for something they deserved all along. I agree that they deserved it all along. I'm explaining Horowitz's point is that very few white people owned slaves, and white people as a whole are blamed for slavery. Similarly, Horowitz tried to explain that many white people fought and died to ensure that slaves were given rights. Do you think they had to do that? Horowitz is trying to say that white people voted and died for the rights of slaves. Somewhere around 1-2% of the population died fighting for their rights. You can't just dismiss that, and that is what Horowitz believed.

I was trying to relate back to US history though, but you are correct in that slavery is not a problem created by the white man, however, it is definitely one emphasized by him. And to deny that is pointless, especially with this playground argument that "others did it first, so its kind of okay/not our fault". The violation of human rights by Katar and parts of Africa are equally terrible, but i dont understand how this can be fabricated into an excuse, or even more blatantly, "credit", for white people.
Also look at how black people were treated after slavery was abolished. Yes, slavery was done, but to say that their lives equated that of a free (white) man is ridiculous. We could start a whole discussion over the term "freedom". Is freedom not being a slave? Is freedom being able to go to the same places as other ethnicities? Sitting in the same seats?

The statement that "black people owe whites their freedom" is basically like saying the jews owe the Germans, because hey, small groups of them fought the nazis and their regime at the time and lost their lives. Or maybe they owe the russians, who 'saved' them from the nazis by winning the war (only to then be oppressed by Stalin).
I understand that these fights need to be acknowledged, but to derive from that that another ethnicity or minority owes them anything is bull and just shows how high some people are on their white race.

Horowitz is a plain racist that constantly fuels hate against minorities. He calls the BLM movement racist and blames black people on their inability to progress as a culture. To somehow look for truth in the [BLEEP] that is coming out of this biggots mouth is just a big tell on where people stand when it comes to racial inequality.

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