(03-11-2019, 12:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-11-2019, 12:39 PM)JackCity Wrote: Well take this year for instance, nobody seriously thinks Grier and Ryan Finley have stronger arms than Drew Lock or Tyree Jackson do they?  

As I've posted before I think Grier has an average arm that he gets the most out of with a quick set up and release. For college that's perfectly fine, for the NFL less so but you can still be very effective if you have the other traits needed. Grier for instance has high level accuracy and touch , so it's less of a concern. It's not an unpopular opinion that Grier doesn't have a strong arm though.

Popular, unpopular, I don’t even take that into account with QB evaluation anymore. 

I could literally cull through Grier takes on Twitter and find starkly contrasting takes on his accuracy, his arm strength and his ability to read a defense, and they’d all have some sort of “stat” or “evidence” to back it up. Tons of contrast from analysts on this guy and several others. 

I happen to believe NFL level arm strength is not an issue for him in the slightest. A humble opinion formed strictly by watching him throw the football. 

I think that popular opinion you refer to is just weak evaluation stemming from his tendency to put too much air under the ball at times.
His combine performance showed me he’s capable of throwing intermediate and deep stuff with lower trajectory and higher velocity. For me - that confirms my opinion.

I don't think anyone should, just that it's not a narrative that's confined to a few randomers on the board.

Same here, if you look through twitter right now you can see people claiming Grier or Rypien have stronger arms than Drew Lock and Tyree Jackson despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, albeit like any kind of football evaluation it's subjective. Same way we had people on here claiming Watsons arm was too weak to throw the ball in the NFL, all based off his score at the combine. 

As for floating the ball so often I guess it depends on what side of the fence you are on. He's in the same school as Mason Rudolph for me in that regard. I'd like to see a full season of them showing they don't have to float the ball so much before crossing it off the list as an issue. Grier > Rudolph by a mile though

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