(12-23-2018, 07:56 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(12-23-2018, 07:39 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: What? That they would want to trade up as well? I thought of that. They have a lot more needs than we do, particularly on defense. Maybe they don't wanna give up so many draft picks. Other than QB, We really only need O-Line help and a TE or WR. We have the ability to trade away a lot more in picks. The Giants don't have a 3rd round pick and we have two of them. We can fill our needs in this draft and become a contender in 2019 with the right QB, even if we trade our first rounder this coming year, 2020 and in 2021. The Giants are probably a couple of years away from contending, because even if the do get a QB, their defense needs a lot of upgrades. Our defense is solid. We only need to upgrade the passing attack. I can't go another season with question marks at the QB position. Right now, I have Haskins as the only guy in the draft (if he enters), with franchise potential. It's time to commit and commit hard.

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Are you satisfied with what we've had at QB for years? Sometimes you have to give up a lot to get "your guy." Do you think the Chiefs regret trading up? What about the Rams trading up for Goff or the Bears trading up for Trubisky? Those all look like great moves IMO. Why is it wrong for us to do the same?

If they felt that way about a QB in this draft they wouldn't of won today.   The Rams were at 15 and traded for 1 and the Chiefs gave no where near 3 1sts.  Haskins is decent but he is starting to get Teddy level overrated.  Giving up 3 firsts for a guy that will possibly be there when we pick could be the end of this franchise and I dont want to see that.  More times than not it has failed when teams trade the farm for a player and we dont have that to risk.  If we made that trade our franchise would probably be on the line.  Even if he was the guy all it would take is one injury

I think that goes directly to the idiocy of this coaching staff. 

I didn't mean we just hand over 3 first round picks. Obviously, we negotiate starting much lower and hopefully, it doesn't take that much to move up. I was just using that as an example of how high I would go. As far as the Haskins comparison to Teddy Bridgewater, the only thing they have in common is that they are both black, dropback QB's. After that, the comparison ends. Haskins is significantly better than Bridgewater at every facet of the position. 

The franchise will be on the line if we overdraft a QB like Grier, Herbert or Lock and they fail like Bortles did. I would refuse to draft any of them in the top 20 picks. It's just too much of a risk IMO. Taking that kind of risk and striking out, would set this franchise back another 5 years. I can't go through that again. As far as the draft picks, you just weigh them against what you have. We have a talented defense. If we don't use any pick on defense this year, I'm o.k. with that. I really think we need a new NT, but as long as we get Haskins and an upgraded O-Line, I'm happy. I don't think using a couple first round selections or even 3, hurts us that badly, if we come away with a franchise QB.

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