(12-05-2018, 07:01 PM)FBT Wrote:

(12-04-2018, 03:59 PM)rollerjag Wrote: As soon as Bush signed a budget that included a tax increase, Newt Gingrich ran back to Capitol Hill and stirred up the conservative wing of the Republican party, giving birth to the political tribalism we have today. As a result, we got Clinton, who continued Bush's economic policies, balanced the budget and ushered in a period of prosperity.

Thanks to Newt Gingrich and the republican congress that took over in 1994. 

To his credit, Clinton recongized the benefit of working with the other side.  He also recognized that he could take credit for the success, which is fine.  But, for those who think Trump has debased the office of the presidency, the Clinton presidency would make that almost look like child's play, whether you're talking about renting out the Lincoln bedroom for big cash donations, or selling out our missile technology to China, or hosting coffees with Clinton where big money donors could hang with the president.  

We won't even get started on the whole Lewinsky thing.

The fact that GHWB could look beyond that and befriend Clinton amazes me to this day, but the Clinton and Bush families are extremely tight.  I guess maybe BLT can provide us with a conspiracy to explain that.

GHWB was a remarkable man, in many ways.

I'm no fan of the Clintons. My point regarding Bush losing the election supposedly because he broke his promise to not raise taxes, was the irony of ending up with Clinton, who essentially proceeded with Bush's economic plan. 

As egregious as trading a night in the Lincoln Bedroom in exchange for campaign contributions may be, if you don't think big donors to any presidential campaign are favored with some sort of access to the President or White House, you're kidding yourself.

Trump's debasement is on a different level. I'd rather not steer us further off-topic by going there.

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