(12-05-2018, 09:44 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 12:49 PM)TJBender Wrote: Except that Clinton did balance the budget. The dot-com bubble burst towards the end and screwed W over, but there's no denying that for all of Clinton's other shortcomings (like, you know, the whole "being a sexual predator" thing), he did balance out an economy that was in the pooper when he stepped in.

LBJ was a colossal self-serving douche to the point that if someone showed me a shred of credible evidence, I'd believe that he had played a part in arranging Kennedy's assassination to assure himself a seat in the White House. He escalated the Vietnam War basically because he was pissed off, and while he was outwardly supportive of the civil rights movement, behind the scenes he was 100% against it and wanted to see it crumble. History looking favorably upon him at all is the only evidence you need to see which side was writing the history textbooks back in the '70s and '80s.

My grandpa always told me when I was a kid that he believed it was Ladybird Johnson who was in on arranging the assassination. Apparently, she had said "my husband will be second to no man." He also believe LBJ knew about the plot, but he always maintained it was the brainchild of Ladybird. All of my family, Republicans and Democrats hated 

I’ve said this before, but my family lived in a small town in Texas for several years when I was young and my parents became really close to a couple that were in their 80’s. He had been on the board of GTE and several other companies back in the day. He was really good friends with Johnson. My dad asked him one time if he thought he had anything to do with it and he told my dad that LBJ was one of the most honorable men he knew, but Ladybird? He said there wasn’t a doubt in his mind that she had something to do with it!  He told my dad that she could be down right scary with her determination!

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