(01-09-2019, 01:09 AM)TJBender Wrote:

(01-08-2019, 11:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: One guy talked about border security.

The two other guys talked about a shutdown and denying people were murdered by illegals. Terrible night for dems.

One guy talked about how border security is a national crisis and a humanitarian crisis. I agree. He talked about the need for a wall. I disagree. He said that the Mexican trade deal will pay "indirectly" for the wall. One, that's not Mexico paying for it. Two, that's not how government funding works. That's barely how private funding works. He cherry-picked cases that we're all familiar with (how nice of him to bother to know the name of the American hero who died on December 26th) to make it seem like we're under seige. We're not. He's a tool.

Schumer wanted to talk about a President throwing a temper tantrum. He's a tool.

Pelosi was the only one to really mention what's happened: bipartisan legislation has been placed in front of Trump that he's refused to consider. He has said that he would keep the government shut down for as long as it takes to get his wall. He's the one who said he'd shut the government down. He's refused legislation that separates border security funding from turning the lights back on. She's still a tool, but she's the only tool who had anything of substance for the conversation.