(01-10-2019, 11:23 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-10-2019, 11:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I read an interesting article that put forth the theory that the most face-saving way out of this impasse (for all sides) is for Trump to declare a national emergency, try to fund the wall from the Pentagon budget, declare victory, and re-open the government.  

Of course, the whole idea will wind up in the courts, but at least we'd get the government open again.   And neither side loses in this scenario.

Neither "side" loses, perhaps, but the overall civic engagement and faith in fair government would take another body blow.
If, as is likely, the courts block the emergency declaration for the wall, the Trump supporters would just hate the courts all the more and get more radical calling for Trump and the military to ignore the courts.

I don't think the military would ignore the courts.   The military pledges allegiance to the Constitution, not to the President.   The military will follow the Constitution, so they would obey a court order.  

If the courts ruled against Trump, and he ignored the courts, after ignoring Congress, that would set up a major Constitutional crisis and Trump would get impeached, and most Republicans in the Senate would vote to convict him.  

I'm just searching for some scenario where everyone can climb down off their high horse and start negotiating rationally.

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