(01-11-2019, 04:52 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 10:20 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: And that's why the Democrats will not give in.   They see this as the way to get rid of Trump.   And he handed them this.   He could have quietly negotiated a deal without all the histrionics about how it's "the wall or bust," and then he could have claimed victory.   But no, he has to make this all about himself.  

He's a terrible negotiator, mainly because he's a narcissist and an idiot.

No, he couldn't have done that. 

As soon as the Dems took the House, they had no intentions of negotiating in good faith. They offered him $25 billion months ago, and now they wont even consider $5 billion. He's already asked them if they're willing to build the wall even if he opened the government. Ole Nancy and Chucky said that they didn't intend to fund the wall under any circumstance. He gains nothing, and risks losing support, if he opens the government without the wall. 

I agree with you that he shouldn't have accepted 100% responsibility. That wasn't smart at all.

Why didn’t he take the $25 billion, in your opinion?

 He’s walked himself into a trap.  As you say, he gains nothing and loses something, probably some support, if he reopens the government without the wall.   And this is after he proclaimed that he would take responsibility for shutting down the government.   So he’s trapped himself.   All the Democrats have to do is dig in their heels and refuse to do anything and he loses either way.   He either takes the blame for shutting down the government or he takes the blame for not getting the wall built. 

 This is why am saying he’s a terrible negotiator.

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