(01-11-2019, 06:10 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 05:26 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Nobody should negotiate with him. He's a liar. He said Mexico would pay for the wall and now he shuts down the government while hundreds of thousands of government workers are expected to show up for work, even though they aren't getting paid, because now he wants our taxpayers to fund it.

Let’s pretend that people understand government funding and remove the Mexico bit of the equation. Now what? It doesn’t factor into the situation at all except those ignorantly hanging on to the notion Mexico was going to send over mules carrying bags and bags of cash.

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(01-11-2019, 05:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Why didn’t he take the $25 billion, in your opinion?

 He’s walked himself into a trap.  As you say, he gains nothing and loses something, probably some support, if he reopens the government without the wall.   And this is after he proclaimed that he would take responsibility for shutting down the government.   So he’s trapped himself.   All the Democrats have to do is dig in their heels and refuse to do anything and he loses either way.   He either takes the blame for shutting down the government or he takes the blame for not getting the wall built. 

 This is why am saying he’s a terrible negotiator.

Because like many on here, they moved the goalposts so they could push for DACA reform. Schumer pulled back the $25 billion off the table.

https://m.washingtontimes.com

You're saying he let someone put everything he wanted on the table, and then he let them pull it off the table.  What kind of super duper deal maker allows that to happen?   You're saying he let himself get played.   

And now, all the democrats have to do is dig in their heels and refuse to negotiate, and he takes the blame.  Because he said he would gladly take the blame!  He's painted himself into a corner.  

Do you think Lyndon Johnson would have gotten played like that?

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