(01-11-2019, 06:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 06:10 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

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Because like many on here, they moved the goalposts so they could push for DACA reform. Schumer pulled back the $25 billion off the table.

https://m.washingtontimes.com

one of the unwritten rules of Washington is that you don't step back from the negotiating table without accusing the other side of moving the goalposts.

Some accusations of this are credible and some are not. John Boehner and Obama were at the negotiating table and Obama presented him with an idea, and Boehner did not disagree with it right away. But the next day, he talked it over with some of his Republican colleagues and not only did they privately tell him no, they went to the news and leaked the details of the negotiation, and insinuated that Boehner was in favor. So then Boehner feels like, to be a true conservative, he has to go on these same news programs and say no, he was not in favor. of course this comes as a surprise to Obama has to hear it on the news, that not only is this idea that he had out in the public, but his negotiating partner doesn't like it. so he says that Boehner was negotiating in bad faith and that he moved the goalposts. But the truth is more subtle than that.  None of that would have happened if banners on guys hadn't gone behind his back to the news. If they had all discussed privately face to face, nobody would have brought out any accusations like "you moved the goalposts."

The situation with DACA and the border wall is a little more complicated.
And we don't have as much information about what was discussed.
But Trump came out of the meeting and said something to the effect of "Schumer moved the goalposts."
Might have happened. Don't know. Schumer is a garden-variety politician. They do move goal posts around, and aren't afraid to waste people's time.

But Schumer came out and said something interesting. He basically said "it's not the Trump moved the goalposts, it's that Trump doesn't understand the proposals clearly enough to know where any one's goal posts are." and given how the man talks when he doesn't have a teleprompter in front of him, I find Schumer's testimony about this very credible.