(01-17-2019, 03:20 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(01-17-2019, 02:51 PM)TJBender Wrote: No, it's really not, because it's a stupid non-solution to an overstated problem. Unless you're going to wall off legal entry points and put really, really big walls around airports to keep people with student visas from getting in, you're not going to stop the flow with it.

You view it as stupid because you apparently have misunderstood what the problem really is. It's not the legal ports of entry, student visas, H1 visas, airports, or any other means of legal entry. It is the "illegal" part of "illegal immigration". That is the issue. I don't believe many folks have an issue with trying to come work in the US or immigrate using the legal methods. I'm stunned you got so far confused in all this. I suppose you also don't understand that the additional wall funding is not being sold as a sole solution. It's a continuing resolution to just one piece of the puzzle. It's also just one part of the over budget request from the POTUS and DHS. It makes no sense to fund any one piece without the others. How is this so difficult for folks to understand?

Yes it is. Most of the people in this country that are here illegally overstayed their visa, or they came over for a perfectly legal trip and illegally decided not to return home. An illegal immigrant is more likely to attempt to cross the border while hidden inside of a semi or closed into the space under the back seat of a Ford than they are to hike for days through the desert. You're trying to sink $5 billion into a solution that doesn't solve the problem. Take the stupid wall out and fund everything else. Hell, take the stupid wall out and divert the $5.7B to other border security items that will be cost effective, doesn't screw over hundreds of species, increases the visible Border Patrol presence at legal crossings and the open border, and can't be defeated in a day by two dudes with shovels. I'm all for a wall if that wall consists of sensors buried underground designed to detect movement across them, cameras and drones to identify what's making that movement, and agents in cars, on horseback and in the air to detain any illegal human traffic. A physical barrier is a stupid non-solution to an overstated problem.

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