(03-06-2019, 02:59 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(03-06-2019, 02:24 PM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: I don't think you're realizing that our time is now with this talented defense. If we take a rookie QB there is no telling how they will turn out. Rookie and high pick QBs are the most unreliable picks you can make. Way more bust than make it and this yeat is a very weak QB draft class. With an even average an this team is a contender as we saw in 2017 year when bortles played average.

Last year I think it was around 5 losses decided by one possession or score. The difference between a bad (bortles) and average QB last season was literally the difference between 5 wins or 10 wins. With any type of at least avg QB play last season we get 10 wins and maybe make another strong playoff push. 

If we don't play it safe  I think it's about a 70 percent chance the QB we draft busts (historical avg on drafted QBs) and all the defensive talent we have goes to total waste. We are a team built to win now with one missing piece, QB. 

Don't forget that with even avg QB play our defense becomes even that much better as they are on the field less and have more energy to close out games in 4th q and make more game changing plays when on the field. 

With the current sorry draft class of QB available, Foles is the way.

This has so many bad "hot" takes in it that I don't know where to begin. Let's just use your first sentence.

Believing that the time is "right now" is exactly what you don't want to do. It's how you end up drafting Harvey because you believe you're "1 piece away." It's how you get into the mess that was the off season after 1999. Foles is a band aid fix at the QB position for one or 2 seasons. This team needs a complete overhaul and the best way (most consistent way) to get a long term answer at QB is through the draft. Look at Denver. They "fixed" their QB spot with a band aid (a HOF caliber one) in Manning but then fell off a cliff and have been searching for an answer ever since. Foles is not and isn't even close to a HOF level QB and yet people are treating him as if he was one.

(03-06-2019, 03:30 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(03-06-2019, 03:20 PM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: I'm watching the team that went to thr afc championship game season before last and deserved to be in the SB but the refs took that away by blowing the Myles Jack fumble recovery call, but slipped last year due to teams figuring out the over simplified offense we were running to hand hold Bortles and him regressing right back to his usual self..

What team are you watching ?



I'm gonna go ahead and assume you know nothing about football if you think the team needs a "complete overhaul" - mega face palm. 

And you putting words in people's mouths to try to prove your points doesn't make it true, it just makes you look bad. Where did I or anybody say Foles is a HOFer??? And who says you need a HOFer to win a SB? 

6 of the last 10 SBs were won by a HOFer.  Only 10 of the last 20 starting QBs in the last ten SBs were HOFers and 6 of those 10 were Brady. There's alot more required to win SBs than a HOF QB, unless you have Brady and there aren't any of those available unfortunately and drafting for a Brady is the dumbest strategy possible as it probably has similar odds to hitting the lottery.

A serviceable 10-15 ranked QB will do the job just fine with a talented defense, our o line healthy and good running game (heavily related to health o line).

Have you actually watched football before or... ?

Oh the irony.

This team doesn't need a complete overhaul and I never said that. What I did say was that signing Foles because "the defense is ready now" is a very bad reason to sign him. I brought up Manning as just one example of a FA QB who took his team to the SB. Other than Brees and Manning (who were FAs only because of injury concerns) how many FA QBs have won a SB? If Foles had been the QB all season 2 years ago, do the Eagles even make the playoffs? He was absolutely terrible in 3 of the 6 games he started in 2017. 

My point is that the best way for a team to have consistent and sustained success is with a true franchise QB. And the best way to do that is to draft one. Not to take some other teams leftovers.