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MalabarJag · 02-28-2019, 12:27 PM

(02-28-2019, 09:21 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(02-27-2019, 08:07 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: Sorry, but this is mostly nonsense.

Trump has done no damage to the country so far, unless you count the insane Democrat response as his fault, and considering how they treated Bush and Romney (and Kavanaugh), an insane response was probably waiting for any Pub president. Warren wants to start a race war by promising reparations, and a shooting war by confiscating guns. She voted to allow hospitals to let babies die without trying to keep them alive (and yes, some states now allow that, so it wasn't an unnecessary bill). I think your equating the two is deeply flawed.

You want the government to do things that work. Great. I want to win the lottery. I think my odds are better than yours.

Open minded? What leftist idea should we be open minded about? Destroying the economy through socialism? Destroying the economy through "Green" totalitarian laws? Letting babies die after they are born? Maybe you wan to defend open borders?

I have not joined a team. I was opposed to Trump. But I have seen him do a lot of good for the country, more than I would have hoped from any Pub candidate. I am a fan of Trump because his policies so far, not because he's a Pub, or because of MAGA, or for any other reason.

So I'm going to take my own advice, and instead of counterattacking your post, instead just ask a few questions.

1. What, in your opinion, is the reason some people adopt a "left-wing" political position?

2. Are you at all concerned about the federal budget deficit?

3. Do you think there was ever a case where "liberals" were right and "conservatives" were wrong? In other words, have liberals ever done anything good?

4. When you post in this message board, do you care about whether you can actually change anyone's mind about anything? Do you think it's possible to change anyone's mind? Why do you post political arguments here? What's the point?

Good questions. Note that my response to Sammy was to ask him what particular policies of Trump he considered "right wing." I still haven't got an answer, but that in itself is a telling response.

1. Two reasons. First are a contingent of people who consider themselves victims and want someone to use force to redress their suffering. The other group are the elitist experts who know better than the "deplorables" who just want to run their own lives. Basically, the Left wants to use the guns of government to force people to do what they deem correct behavior.

2. Absolutely. However, there is no one electable who will do anything about it. It's as if I were dying of an incurable disease. Complaining about it solve nothing.

3. The clean air and clean water acts were good. There are still a few environmental issues where I think the Left is right. The problem here is that 95% of the current environmentalist alarmism is wrong. DeSantis claims to be for the environment. I hope he addresses the problems with the Everglades and Florida springs.

4. SOMETHING SAID ON THE INTERNET WAS WRONG! I certainly don't expect to change the mind of the person I'm replying to, but maybe others will view things differently after reading what I wrote. Also, others who agree with me might find my arguments useful in their later discussions.

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"