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Poll: Should we trade for Rosen? assuming Cards will accept a 3rd
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Josh Rosen? (Merged)

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(03-07-2019, 08:42 AM)JagsorDie Wrote: What you are saying here makes a lot of since and I don't completely dis agree with you. But there are some important things to remember when using Bortles' stats as a crutch. First, I have never been one to bang the "garbage time" stats drum. But let's be honest, a lot of BB's production was inflated by putting up numbers late in games that were out of reach against prevent/soft coverage. And we can't say he didn't always have weapons, there was a time we had two receivers who are starting caliber receiver. One of which(hurns) took quite a few thumps over the middle going after BB balls( a lot of recievers take those licks but a lot passes didn't do him any favors). I'm not just trying rip Bortles apart, but coming from someone who defended him through most of his time here in duval, I have to call it like I see it when I look back. Stats may suggest one thing, but I watched every one of his games, they don't tell the whole story.

Then let's look at the biggest factor, at least IMO. The throwing motion/mechanics and decision making/reads. Bortles mechanics are not great( putting it lightly). I remember when back corner fades in the end zone were almost automatic to Robinson. Then it turned into a time where the crowd had a better shot at the ball. His wind up and release are not quick to say the least. His Footwork in the pocket is also not great. Occasionally you see a pass come out that looks like a punt(I remember a time when people were sharing tweets on here that were excited about BB throwing a tight spiral.... really). Couple that with the slow to poor decision makings that forces coordinators to dumb down schemes for him, and you have a yourself a BB. Foles on the other hand doesn't share these same characteristics( at least not to the level of B.B.). On top of that we brought in one of his coaches from his sb run with at philly as a OC.

I'm not saying foles is the best in the league. But he is certainly a upgrade. We don't need a world beater GOAT qb. We just need someone who doesn't put our D in bad positions with ints and quick 3 and outs and demands a little respect in the passing game from opposing Ds so we don't face a stacked box every run. Foles, imo, fits the build quite nicely the more I look.

Good post, JoD, I liked the bolded statement.
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So, about Rosen? - by iHaunting Raven - 03-06-2019, 06:25 PM
RE: Josh Rosen an option? - by JagswinJagswin - 03-09-2019, 03:39 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by pirkster - 03-09-2019, 04:03 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by JaG4LyFe - 03-10-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by iHaunting Raven - 03-10-2019, 02:16 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by imtheblkranger - 03-10-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by iHaunting Raven - 03-10-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by AlsJagsFan - 03-10-2019, 04:00 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by rpr52121 - 03-13-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by JagFanatic24 - 03-19-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-19-2019, 07:02 PM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by PF* - 03-20-2019, 08:31 AM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-20-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-20-2019, 10:17 AM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by ATLjag - 03-28-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: Josh Rosen? (Merged) - by Caldrac - 03-28-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by flgatorsandjags - 03-06-2019, 09:47 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by Jagsfan32277 - 03-06-2019, 09:56 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by flgatorsandjags - 03-06-2019, 10:50 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JagswinJagswin - 03-07-2019, 01:40 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by AlsJagsFan - 03-07-2019, 02:57 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by TheDogCatcher - 03-07-2019, 04:53 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JagsorDie - 03-07-2019, 08:42 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by PF* - 03-07-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by jvillejagsn1 - 03-07-2019, 10:00 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by flsprtsgod - 03-07-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JAGFAN88 - 03-07-2019, 10:42 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by Cleatwood - 03-07-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JAGFAN88 - 03-07-2019, 11:37 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by flgatorsandjags - 03-07-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by The Real Marty - 03-07-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JAGFAN88 - 03-07-2019, 12:02 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by Cleatwood - 03-07-2019, 12:14 PM
Jaguars Could Provide A Huge Shock - by Jagulars - 03-07-2019, 07:40 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by JagswinJagswin - 03-07-2019, 09:41 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by NYC4jags - 03-07-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by JagswinJagswin - 03-07-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by jessepeck1213 - 03-07-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by BamboozledAgain - 03-08-2019, 01:47 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Black and Teal - 03-08-2019, 02:03 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Browntrouser - 03-08-2019, 08:59 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by imtheblkranger - 03-08-2019, 09:11 AM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by NCJag - 03-08-2019, 09:54 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by KFL - 03-08-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Setsuna00 - 03-10-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: So, about Rosen? - by Cleatwood - 03-08-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Dimson - 03-08-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by JAGFAN88 - 03-08-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Cleatwood - 03-09-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by jvillejagsn1 - 03-10-2019, 02:45 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by Dimson - 03-08-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Josh Rosen Trade? - by iHaunting Raven - 03-08-2019, 05:15 PM
Josh Rosen an option? - by jaguarmvp - 03-09-2019, 12:07 AM
RE: Josh Rosen an option? - by BamboozledAgain - 03-09-2019, 12:26 AM
RE: Josh Rosen an option? - by Pick 6 - 03-09-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: Josh Rosen an option? - by Black and Teal - 03-09-2019, 10:19 AM



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