(03-12-2019, 12:59 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(03-12-2019, 12:09 PM)JackCity Wrote: The point of the chart isn't to compare Foles to Mahomes, or any QB bar Wentz. Its specifically referring to the not uncommon opinion that Foles was either better or at least not far away from Wentz's performance in the same scheme, when in reality Wentz was miles better. Focus on the AY/A part and ratio, not the raw production.  

8 ay/a and 54:14 vs 7 ay/a and 21:11 is a massive difference in performance

I'm not saying he's better than or equal to Wentz.  What I'm saying is sprinkling 8 regular season starts over two seasons makes the exercise of trying to prove definitively he isn't better or equal to Wentz using the above stats pointless.  Again, no one has to like him just because he's our QB and there's a lot of uncertainty going forward just as there would be had we drafted someone high in the 1st round expecting them to start right away.  I think most would take Wentz over Foles if given the option.

I'm not here to be a rah rah guy for Nick Foles.  Like most, I'm hoping he excels here.  I'm of the opinion that we over paid, but I also realize you have to over pay to some extent in free agency.  I'll be very interested as more contract details are released to see how married we are to him beyond the 2020 season.  I'm hoping for a signing bonus under $25 million.  I'm not saying ignore the above comparison, I just don't find it, by itself, very compelling given the circumstances.

I'm not saying you are, the chart is just showing the different levels of performance between them in the same scheme and team. Someone had posted the Foles vs Wentz chart through their careers above and its been mentioned a few times on here by particular posters and on jags twitter that Foles was just as good or better than Wentz.,some have even suggested they should have traded Wentz instead.  

There's tons of metrics , stats (and just by looking) that should show people how big the gulf is between them, its just easier to use one of the better rate stats in comparing them in the same team to illustrate it., or so i thought at least lol

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