(03-12-2019, 02:33 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(03-12-2019, 02:14 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: I simply don't understand the grumbling with Foles. For years, people have been saying we need to dump Bortles, and get someone else. Now we do, and many of those complainers aren't satisfied.

Foles' salary is in the middle of the league. He's a quarterback that (many say) ranks in the middle of the league. I actually dispute that. I think Nick is a a high top ten QB == if he has the right players around him. So for the Jags, they need to use as many as their picks as they can to draft weapons and build the OL. It's easier to do that now that the first pick won't be going to draft a QB.  We can draft that TE from Iowa. Or a great OT.  We can get a RB with one of those third round picks, and with the second and third, we can draft WRs and TEs.  Our OL really was actually pretty decent when they were healthy.

My problem with the Foles signing is tying up franchise QB money in the latest Matt Flynn.

People wanted to get rid of Bortles for the next Patrick Mahomes, not a slightly less limited version of Bortles that can't run. If this move means the Jaguars pass on yet another franchise QB then it was a horrible move. The team needs to find management that can identify franchise quarterbacks in the draft.

There's no Mahomes in this draft--nothing even close. Haskins and Murray will be gone by the time we pick. And even if they were available, neither has thrown a pass in the NFL. So there are more unknowns with them than a guy who just a year ago was the Super Bowl MVP.  You also seem to say that Foles is a less limited version of Bortles. Do you really believe that?  Without Foles, the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl, or go to the playoffs last year. Remember, that team, like the Jags, was devastated by injuries. Foles made an injury-laden team better. Bortles made our defense-laden team much worse. That's the difference, if you ask me.

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(03-12-2019, 03:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I think I still like this front office. I'm a little on the fence though since Coughlin came on board since it's tough to nail down which guys are influencing which picks the most.

I like how they aren't afraid to move on from guys with big salaries and I think its a trend that will serve them well in the end.

I like that they employ some money and contract legalise specialists that seem to be very smart with contract structures.

I like Dave's ability to mine starters in the mid rounds. Wish he'd have hit on more early picks, but...

I'd have done different things with the Smoot and Bryan picks, but those guys could really show up this year. We'll see.

If this F.O. is able to round out this offense during by May with a viable starting combo at RT/RG, a stud TE and a pass catching C.o.P. running back, I'll be a happy Jags fan.  Clearly they need a few other things too, but just those four will renew my optimism about competing for the division.

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(03-12-2019, 02:33 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: ...
The team needs to find management that can identify franchise quarterbacks in the draft.

Signed: 

24 NFL teams every single year

The biggest mistake this team made was holding onto Bortles--and then giving him a contract for more years. He's had two decent seasons--one when he threw for 35 TDs in mostly garbage time, and 2017 - where he benefitted from a team that no injuries and a defense that lead the league in scoring.

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