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** The Official 2019-2020 Dem Debate Thread **

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(This post was last modified: 07-01-2019, 09:40 PM by mikesez.)

(07-01-2019, 04:47 PM)Kane Wrote:
(06-30-2019, 05:12 PM)mikesez Wrote: (1) we had some sanctions against Iran after 2015.  Not as many, but some.
(2) all of the deal provisions ended after 10 years. It would have been renegotiated, perhaps renewed with no changes.  
(3) the IAEA was to do the inspections.  They are trustworthy.  There was no need for the US specifically to them.

Dude... you are so way off in this argument it isn't even funny anymore.

You will literally argue for evil just to be against something Trump has done.

You quite possibly have THE WORST case of TDS ever.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-sec...ar-program

"The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) last week admitted an inconvenient truth. The U.N. watchdog, said Yukiya Amano, has proven unable to verify Iran’s compliance with Section T of the 2015 nuclear deal, which prohibits activities that could contribute to the development of a nuclear explosive device."

"Contrary to widespread media reporting, the IAEA has never fully certified Iran’s compliance with the JCPOA."

The Iran deal was a bad deal made by a bad POTUS backed by a bunch of European idiots who lean on the US to pay for all of the meddling and nonsense that goes on over there.
Iran didn't even fully comply with the "deal" and it did nothing to improve the situation in the Middle East.


It is absolutely laughable that you can even try to defend, not just the deal

That article was filed under opinion.
The usually credible website allowed that man to publish with a byline explaining who pays him.
The organization named gets most of its money from Sheldon Adelson.

But I don't think either of us like to dismiss things just because people we've disagreed with in the past wrote them.

So I read the article to see if it made sense. And it did make sense, but in the wrong way.
The headline of the article says that the IAEA never certified Iran as being fully compliant with the treaty.
But as the article goes on to explain, the task of certifying was left to the seven individual member countries of the treaty. The IAEA consists of many more than just seven countries.
Each of the seven countries was authorized to have a certain number of representatives on the ground with certain instruments to observe certain things.
And then the President of each country was to get those seven reports and make his or her own decision about if the reports said that all parties were complying with the treaty.
You should remember this, because early in Donald Trump's term, he had to issue some of these declarations. Trump himself certified that Iran was complying with what was required by the treaty, before he ultimately decided to cancel US participation in the treaty altogether.
When Trump pulled out, he did not claim that Iran was violating the treaty. He just said that it was a bad treaty.
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RE: ** The Official 2019-2020 Dem Debate Thread ** - by mikesez - 07-01-2019, 09:29 PM



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