Talk about a job killer.... I guess the Liberal wing didn't learn the lessons of Seattle and other places that raised the Minimum wage........

House passes bill to raise minimum wage to $15 an hour

The House of Representatives approved the Raise the Wage Act Thursday, which would boost the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade.

In a 231-199 vote along party lines, the House passed the legislation that would increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, more than double the current rate of $7.25. In an even more drastic increase, the bill calls for having the same minimum wage for tipped workers, raising it from $2.13 an hour.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-p...15-an-hour

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You know trouble is right around the corner when your best friend tells you to hold his beer!!

When small businesses lay off and go bankrupt the left gets to blame it on Trump.

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How is my grossly disproportional sense of rage supposed to be quelled by throwing a drink at a kiosk when my order is incorrect? Huh???

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Shows how stupid a ton of folks can be. This should be another warning in a long list. In any case, the vote is more symbolic than anything. It will get squashed in the Senate.

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If this somehow gets passed and my waiter/waitress is making 30k-ish I’m not tipping. I used to be the guy that tipped very well. My wife would complain about me giving someone 20.00 on a 50.00 bill. Pretty sure I’m not the only one that does that. I’d imagine some waiters/waitresses could actually make less.

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Guess we have to order something off the $2 menu at McDonalds now (from a Kiosk).

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Guess we have to order something off the $2 menu at McDonalds now (from a Kiosk).

I’m told they’ve already started doing that at some locations .  I haven’t eaten there in quite some time. 
If that does pass, I say...good for them.  McDonald’s isn’t a 15/hr job.

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Guess we have to order something off the $2 menu at McDonalds now (from a Kiosk).

I’m told they’ve already started doing that at some locations .  I haven’t eaten there in quite some time. 
If that does pass, I say...good for them.  McDonald’s isn’t a 15/hr job.

My favorite image in my fight against $15 MW.

Also, if they have robots that build cars, I promise you they can also stick burgers in a microwave and drop, salt, and box french fries.

The Democratic proposal for a robot tax won't be far behind this movement.

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I’m told they’ve already started doing that at some locations .  I haven’t eaten there in quite some time. 
If that does pass, I say...good for them.  McDonald’s isn’t a 15/hr job.

My favorite image in my fight against $15 MW.

Also, if they have robots that build cars, I promise you they can also stick burgers in a microwave and drop, salt, and box french fries.

The Democratic proposal for a robot tax won't be far behind this movement.

I read your first two sentences and thought "Great!" and then I read your last sentence and thought "Aw, [BLEEP]."  Because you're probably right.

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Pros and Cons will go into effect immediately if this passes all channels. The price of food/services will increase tremendously. Mom and Pop restaurants will have to down size and or price increase. The market overall will be inflated to say the least.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

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Pros and Cons will go into effect immediately if this passes all channels. The price of food/services will increase tremendously. Mom and Pop restaurants will have to down size and or price increase. The market overall will be inflated to say the least.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

The food industry will be impacted heavily for sure
  But don’t stop there.  There are many other industries that will be raising the prices to compensate for The cost.  And what about the places that are currently paying people
30+ per year?   Now adjusting an insurance claim is just the same as serving up a Big Mac.
  If I adjusted claims (which I’ve done about 14 years ago for that price,
Probably has gone up a bit) and made The same
as a person selling fast food burgers I’d be pissed.

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Thomas Sowell is somewhere just shaking his head...

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Thomas Sowell is somewhere just shaking his head...

I believe he is still alive. They should bring him in so he can give a basic economics lesson on why forced wage increases always have a negative impact on the economy whether that is through labor market/supply and demand equilibrium adjustment because of excess or using the aggregate supply curve for labor that simply shows the more money/more leisure. The fundamentals have been put aside for emotions and a few votes. The irony is that those votes they are chasing would most likely be jobless under a Federal across the board minimum wage increase.

I love how politicians try to get more legislators on board by stating in the writeup that it will roll out slowly and if it begins to fail they will do a study to make corrections. Everyone knows once something like this is a law it is near impossible to turn back. They also know it's going to fail. All this is code for...we'll pass additional legislation to further subsidize mistake. Stupid

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As if there aren't enough real-world examples. The irony should absolutely not get lost...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-...ng-mockery

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Well, it's a good thing this Trump economy is putting more cash in people's pockets to pay the inevitable increase for everyday goods and services.

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”...going off the rails on a crazy train."

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If this somehow gets passed and my waiter/waitress is making 30k-ish I’m not tipping.  I used to be the guy that tipped very well.  My wife would complain about me giving someone 20.00 on a 50.00 bill.  Pretty sure I’m not the only one that does that.  I’d imagine some waiters/waitresses could actually make less.

You're not alone. I tip generously as well. Sometimes overkill. Usually I'll throw an extra $10.00 down here and there if you're quiet, direct and keep my cup filled without being asked.

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My favorite image in my fight against $15 MW.

Also, if they have robots that build cars, I promise you they can also stick burgers in a microwave and drop, salt, and box french fries.

The Democratic proposal for a robot tax won't be far behind this movement.

I read your first two sentences and thought "Great!" and then I read your last sentence and thought "Aw, [BLEEP]."  Because you're probably right.

He's absolutely right. I just can't wait for South Park to do an episode where it's a different generation or class of people crying out "They took er jerbs!" within a week of this being announced.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If this somehow gets passed and my waiter/waitress is making 30k-ish I’m not tipping.  I used to be the guy that tipped very well.  My wife would complain about me giving someone 20.00 on a 50.00 bill.  Pretty sure I’m not the only one that does that.  I’d imagine some waiters/waitresses could actually make less.

A waitress or bartender is paid about $2/ hour, plus tips.  At the end of the pay period, the employer has to make sure that the wages plus tips add up to minimum wage.  If they don't, the employer has to pay the difference.  Usually the employee will reveal just enough tips so that the employer doesn't have to pay them more, but hide the rest so as to avoid taxes.
If they keep it that way, just with a higher minimum wage, there'd be little reason for you to change your tipping behavior.  Your generous tip could still be the one that bumps them up and over minimum wage.
But, side note: a lot of wait staff could actually reduce their tax burden by fully reporting their tips. If they aren't anyone's dependent, and have a dependent, they are probably leaving EITC benefits on the table when they hide some of their income.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

If this somehow gets passed and my waiter/waitress is making 30k-ish I’m not tipping.  I used to be the guy that tipped very well.  My wife would complain about me giving someone 20.00 on a 50.00 bill.  Pretty sure I’m not the only one that does that.  I’d imagine some waiters/waitresses could actually make less.

A waitress or bartender is paid about $2/ hour, plus tips.  At the end of the pay period, the employer has to make sure that the wages plus tips add up to minimum wage.  If they don't, the employer has to pay the difference.  Usually the employee will reveal just enough tips so that the employer doesn't have to pay them more, but hide the rest so as to avoid taxes.
If they keep it that way, just with a higher minimum wage, there'd be little reason for you to change your tipping behavior.  Your generous tip could still be the one that bumps them up and over minimum wage.
But, side note: a lot of wait staff could actually reduce their tax burden by fully reporting their tips.  If they aren't anyone's dependent, and have a dependent, they are probably leaving EITC benefits on the table when they hide some of their income.

I have a son that works in the restaurant industry as a manager.  We have talked about this and I can assure you that the wait staff and the bartenders are making much more than $2 per hour plus tips.  As of matter of fact they earn much closer to the local minimum wage plus tips, in the case of my son he says they earn between $5 and $7 per hour (still under the minimum wage here in Florida).

Depending on the establishment the wait staff and bartenders are for the most part making $15 per hour or close to it depending on the shift that they work, and in some cases making more.  I'll give a bit of a hint here, the employer is only involved with tips that are included on a credit or debit card.  As an example, if I tip $20 on my credit card when I pay my bill, the employer will extract the taxes owed on that $20 and count the remainder towards the employee's salary.  For a customer that spends an hour in an establishment it comes down to roughly the employee making $5 per hour base salary, roughly paying $3.40 in taxes off of their $20 tip (if the customer pays with a credit/debit card) and ends up earning $22.60 for that hour worked serving that table.  That is ONLY if you tip on a credit/debit card.  Keep in mind, the taxes paid are only the employer's withholding.  When the employee files their taxes they have to count the money they received off of my $20 tip AFTER the employer took out taxes for the imperial Federal Government as INCOME and they get taxed again.  Suddenly that $22.60 becomes $19.88 which is more than the proposed $15 minimum wage.

Two things to keep in mind here.

The employer is only involved with tips that are on credit card/debit card receipts.  Cash tips don't count.  There is no verifiable paper trail for cash tips.  That is why I ONLY tip in cash and give it directly to whomever provides me a service.

The employee working a job like that "pays" taxes up front, but when they file their tax return they end up getting a "refund" of all the money that their employer held back.

Now people that think that working as a bartender or as wait staff somewhere is the same as working at McDonald's and "deserve" a "livable wage" of $15 per hour I say this.  I worked at both fast-food places as well as restaurants in my younger days.  People that work in restaurants for the most part (if that's the industry they want to go into) generally care about the job and do their best.  People that work at a fast food restaurant and think that they should be able to make a "living wage" are lazy.  I worked at a fast food restaurant when I was a teen in high school to earn money to put gas in my truck and have some fun on the weekends.  I NEVER thought that it would be a career.  Teens in high school wanted these jobs in order to do some of the "fun" stuff back in the day.  The only "adults" in the industry were managers that didn't really earn "big bucks" but were able to make an honest living.

The problem with the socialist democrats these days is that they want to make "do you want fries with that?" a career rather than a stepping stone.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Thanks for sharing that JIB. I’ve never been in the food/restaurant business. I have often wondered about the tips on the CC/debit and how that worked. I don’t normally keep cash on me for a reason unless I’m on vacation or out in the middle of nowhere/day or weekend trip. I think I’ll start bringing cash with me now to restaurants for tips.

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