(09-26-2019, 08:16 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-25-2019, 11:27 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Did u or did u not read where he asked the president to coordinate with the attorney general?  Soliciting investigative cooperation from a foreign country is a diplomatic function of the chief executive.  PERIOD!

Did you or did you not read the part where he also asked the man to cooperate with his personal attorney?
What kind of president involves his personal attorney in foreign relations?!
remember that folks like the attorney general and the secretary of state have specific duties and limitations spelled out in US statutes that are hundreds of years old.
However, a personal attorney is only bound by a code of ethics to act in the interest of his client.

1st, Giuliani has stated that he was initially solicited by the State department to help develop a relationship with the potential incoming Ukrainian Regime.  In diplomacy, there are lots of relationships and back channels developed to facilitate lines of communication.  

Second, A president who faced allegations from a foreign source that resulted in criminal investigation!  Crowd strike is a Ukrainian based firm that was responsible for examining the DNC server and came to the conclusion that the Russians were responsible for the breach.  Later that year they were found to have fabricated evidence about the Russians hacking a Ukrainian military app.  That diagnosis resulted in millions of dollars of legal fees for the Trump administration and associated officials & Tens of millions of dollars on a bogus investigation.  The idea that a defense attorney doesn't have the ability to follow up on the most famous accuser of his client is patently false!  

Moreover, We already know that Ukrain interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of the previous administration and their preferred candidate for president.  In that case you had illegal leaks of confidential information that resulted in the prosecution of Paul Manafort, whose in jail right now as a result!  How do we know?  The Ukrainian courts already found the parties guilty!  So don't sit here and try to pedal this pearl clutching nonsense about the President of the United States having his personal defense council investigate inflammatory accusations made by anyone, foreign or domestic.  

Also, the entire premise of this conversation is flawed.  If Joe Biden was funding terrorists through a foreign shell company, does that mean Republicans can't investigate.  If Joe Biden killed someone on foreign soil, does that mean we can't look into it?  If there is legitimate probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed then the fact that you aren't a member of the ruling party doesn't immunize you against prosecution!  There should be a standard of transparency, there should be clear and credible evidence, but anyone with eyes can see that this deal (wait till we get to china) stinks to high heaven of corruption and its the fundamental duty of the chief law enforcement officer to facilitate investigation of illicit actions by American citizens wherever they may have occurred, let alone involving billions of dollars in US aid!

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