(09-27-2019, 03:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-27-2019, 01:52 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Did u seriously write this?  The trascript wasnt destroyed it was PRESERVED at a higher level of classification.  Thats not destruction of evidence or evasion of oversight. 

And subordinate officers in the Intel Community don't have an oversight function on the chief executive no matter what they may or may not feel about a classification designation.

Sure, but the Intel committees on either house had a right to see it.

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(09-27-2019, 01:17 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Simply not true. Has he must function in a legal capacity but as Chief Executive is is given certain executive privileges. Any oversight must be in the form of legislative review not because you don't like a person or trying to dig up dirt. To this day, there are still executive conversation and documentation in the National Archive of sitting Presidents that are not releasable.

Executive privilege covers some activities, but not political activities.  Executive privilege extends only as far as the third branch, the courts, will allow.  And it's part of the legal framework.  The president must comply with the law, even though it gives him many more privileges and responsibilities than anyone else.

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(09-27-2019, 01:11 PM)B2hibry Wrote: You are throwing out an opinion based on hearsay. In any case, no other person besides the Authority needs to approve of the classification. And, it doesn't even have to be a "high" classification. It can simply be marked (U//SBU-NF), meaning sensitive but unclassified not for release. This is the authorities prerogative and recorded as such. You are questioning the proper classification and move to the appropriate system as an argument that doesn't exist. FYI, just because it was secured in a SAP system doesn't mean it isn't viewable by anyone else. It simply means you need a need-to-know (not difficult), have proper clearance, and that you are read-in (briefed on rules of handling that particular documentation), and sign NDA based on NOFORN. This happens hundreds of times a day, every day. FYI, IC has already seen it and cleared it.

There was no opinion in my post.  Just a question.  Did the president abuse his power?

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No, Office responsibility (not political), and once again no (DOJ, statutory authority, treaties, and Constitution even say as much).

There are actually U.S. Supreme Court decisions related to the matter of temporarily withholding arms, and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act gives the President broad powers. Pretty sure if arms are being sent to a country you'd like to know whether they are going to support a cause or support a historically corrupt government. But, that aid has already been released. Remember, the Obama administration blocked all loans and aid packages to Ukraine for a period due to corruption. So, all anyone (left) is grasping at is poor Joe Biden the political figure, not the alleged criminal citizen. Don't forget coke head Hunter. There is and has been lawbreaking but it isn't Trump, as you'll slowly learn. Just more exposing the other side and then silence until the new impeachment rally cry...rinse and repeat.

Dems want to push to impeach a President for exposing a crime and then try to elect the very guy who committed it! Can't make this up.

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