(09-28-2019, 10:00 AM)B2hibry Wrote:

(09-28-2019, 09:33 AM)mikesez Wrote: It's a good video.
I see clear and credible allegations of nepotism, and exchanging closeness to US government decision makers for seats on boards.  But this could just as easily be the story of Chelsea Clinton, Dick Cheney, or George W Bush or Jeb Bush. 
As a country, we decided a long time ago that we were okay with nepotism, and we decided even longer before that that we were okay with people profiting off of executing our policy. Now I don't like either decision, and I'm fine to go back on both now, but let's at least apply it evenly.
Trump has also gotten in on nepotism while executing foreign policy. His son-in-law and his two sons have profited off of Trump's visits to the middle East at a minimum, and there are probably other relationships that we don't know about yet.
But what Bush, Clinton and Biden never did was try to divert foreign policy into damaging the other political party. Skim a little profit, no one's gotten in trouble for 30+ years. No one seems to care if Chelsea gets to collect a 10% finder's fee as long as the other 90% went to the US foreign policy objective. But letting a sitting president use his foreign policy powers to hurt the other party is unprecedented.  You will not find another example.

And as much as you squirm now, you still will not find your example. Idiotic to ignore the actual crime because one of the the individuals WAS running for Dem nomination. Ya'll grasped at Don jr. for less. What hurt does the other party suffer at the hands of Trump in all this? Joe was not getting the nod over Warren anyways. Little brain exercise for ya...remove Joe Biden from the equation altogether and concentrate on Hunter. I know the answer but humor us...How do ya feel?

I'm not saying Trump should have ignored the alleged crime.  If he really wanted to punish Hunter Biden and steer our government away from nepotism, 

1) lead by example.  Stop enriching your own children.
2) get the people who actually properly answer to you, the DoJ, on the case.  See if they find evidence that US law was violated.  Remember, even if Ukraine's laws were broken, doesn't mean US laws were, and vice-versa. 
3) if there is probable cause that US laws were broken, have a DoJ spokesperson announce an investigation. get a warrant.
4) ask for Ukraine's help to execute the warrant.

What Trump did, though, was clearly aimed at bamboozling a novice Ukrainian president, and hopefully inducing him to drafting a press release complaining about how corrupt Biden and Obama were.  Fortunately the Ukrainian President didn't take the bait and is trying to stay out of it.  He's only said that he's going to investigate *everything* that went on with prosecutions around 2015, not Biden specifically.  

Consider that a man who was a comedian only two years ago, and still doesn't have his cabinet in place, has a better understanding of how to be discreet as the president of a country, than Trump does after 3 years and near 100% turnover in his cabinet.

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