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Leftists’ D.C. ‘Impeach Donald Trump’ Protests a Bust


(09-28-2019, 10:40 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-28-2019, 10:00 AM)B2hibry Wrote: And as much as you squirm now, you still will not find your example. Idiotic to ignore the actual crime because one of the the individuals WAS running for Dem nomination. Ya'll grasped at Don jr. for less. What hurt does the other party suffer at the hands of Trump in all this? Joe was not getting the nod over Warren anyways. Little brain exercise for ya...remove Joe Biden from the equation altogether and concentrate on Hunter. I know the answer but humor us...How do ya feel?

I'm not saying Trump should have ignored the alleged crime.  If he really wanted to punish Hunter Biden and steer our government away from nepotism, 

1) lead by example.  Stop enriching your own children.
2) get the people who actually properly answer to you, the DoJ, on the case.  See if they find evidence that US law was violated.  Remember, even if Ukraine's laws were broken, doesn't mean US laws were, and vice-versa. 
3) if there is probable cause that US laws were broken, have a DoJ spokesperson announce an investigation. get a warrant.
4) ask for Ukraine's help to execute the warrant.

What Trump did, though, was clearly aimed at bamboozling a novice Ukrainian president, and hopefully inducing him to drafting a press release complaining about how corrupt Biden and Obama were.  Fortunately the Ukrainian President didn't take the bait and is trying to stay out of it.  He's only said that he's going to investigate *everything* that went on with prosecutions around 2015, not Biden specifically.  

Consider that a man who was a comedian only two years ago, and still doesn't have his cabinet in place, has a better understanding of how to be discreet as the president of a country, than Trump does after 3 years and near 100% turnover in his cabinet.

1. How exactly are Trump's children being enriched by Trump's actions WRT foreign governments?
2. The DoJ was on the case. Trump asked Ukraine to provide Barr with any information they had.
3. Does the DoJ need to "announce" every investigation? That would result in 2nd hand punishment of a lot of innocent people. "You're under investigation by the DoJ. Therefore you're fired!"
4. An agency doesn't need a warrant to request information. A warrant is only issued if the subject of the warrant refuses to turn over information the agency suspects he has.

There was no "bamboozle." Trump was more interested in the actions of CrowdStrike, and Hunter Biden was only mentioned in passing. In spite of no response from Ukraine, the military aid was still given, so no Quid Pro Quo, unlike the DIRECT THREAT that Joe Biden made.

As far as "damaging the other political party," are you saying that one can escape investigation of a crime by being a member of the other party? That sure didn't work for Flynn, Manafort, or Page (or Trump for that matter).

Your arguments are ridiculous, but not surprising since they are probably talking points from far Left websites.



                                                                          

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"
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RE: Leftists’ D.C. ‘Impeach Donald Trump’ Protests a Bust - by MalabarJag - 09-28-2019, 01:46 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-21-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 10-21-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by TrivialPursuit - 10-21-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 10-21-2019, 07:15 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by nejagsfan - 10-22-2019, 08:54 PM



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