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Leftists’ D.C. ‘Impeach Donald Trump’ Protests a Bust


(10-03-2019, 12:40 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-03-2019, 12:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: It says right there in the article that the founder of the gas company was the target of the investigation, not Hunter Biden. The article does not say why the founder was under investigation.

Hunter was appointed to the Burisma board in 2014.
Shokin reports that he was told to "do nothing" against Burisma in 2015, and he followed this advice.
Joe Biden did not withhold money from Ukraine until 2016.

It is more likely than not that this natural gas company hired Hunter Biden mainly to protect itself from prosecution.

And if that was the case, it is more likely than not that Joe and Hunter understood their role.

But it was not illegal in either country for Hunter biden to simply accept the position.

And it's not clear if Joe did anything overt to make the investigation shut down in 2015. It could simply be that the president and prosecutor of Ukraine were afraid of him, or maybe they were afraid of someone else in the company creating trouble for them.

When Joe finally makes his move in 2016, it appears to have nothing to do with his son's role at Burisma.

Even if that's not true, Joe's actions would have been an abuse of power but not a violation of law.

And the motive would simply be to enrich himself.

Whereas Trump's abuse of power was motivated by a desire to harm the other political party, or manipulate the press during elections, or simply settle a personal vendetta.  

Each of these possible motives is more corrosive to domestic representative democracy than grifting a foreign country.

If Biden was in office now, it would be worth investigating him for possible impeachment based on what we know today. Presidents or vice presidents should be impeached for abusing their power whether or not they did anything technically illegal.

But Biden is not in office now. Anyone who wants to is free to try to investigate him, but they cannot and should not deploy the tools of US foreign policy to aid investigation, because there's no probable cause that he violated any part of US criminal code.

Trump is in office now, and he must be punished for abusing his power.

Good talk. You've certainly done your best to speak ImaginationLand into existence.

Tell me which claims of fact are false.
Tell me which inferences are unreasonable.
Tell me what you think the true fact is in each case.
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RE: Leftists’ D.C. ‘Impeach Donald Trump’ Protests a Bust - by mikesez - 10-03-2019, 12:52 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-21-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 10-21-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by TrivialPursuit - 10-21-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 10-21-2019, 07:15 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by nejagsfan - 10-22-2019, 08:54 PM



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