(10-08-2019, 11:32 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(10-08-2019, 11:07 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Quite the opposite, actually. Most documentation argues all elected members were to fall into that impeachment/removal category. Unfortunately, since the 1700s, it has not been definitive. One has to question the lack of a process that incorporates the "people" who placed these officers in position to also not be a part of their removal. While not direct, that is how an impeachment is viewed and supported. That is why there is such turmoil right at this very moment. The Dem House is going against precedents, house rules, and founders' intent as written. No matter what side anyone supports, this is an issue that needs to be black and white, or the populace suffers from career politician buy-offs and corruption perception.

Hilarious. 
What are you even trying to say?
The "people" who placed these officers in power?
The electoral college?
You think those guys should be called up again to consider removing Trump?

Of course whatever you're trying to say, it just means at the Democrats are wrong.

Now tell me about the magical thinking or special pleading you use to say that the impeachment in 1998 was correct.

In 98 the independent prosecutor came back and made affirmative declarations that clinton was guilty on multiple FELONIES inclyding perjury, suborning perjury paid a settlement on sexual assault, was disbarred etc.  He should have been removed.

In this case there is no such declaration.  You have an anonymous complaint that doesn't meet the rules of evidence for a criminal proceeding and doesn't point to any criminal or illicit activity. Even still in 1998 the Republican majority in the house still allowed a floor vote to officially authorized the impeachment proceeding and gave the minority certain representation rights is for is issuing subpoenas interviewing Witnesses Etc. In this particular case the Democratic majority has not called for a floor vote to officially authorized and impeachment inquiry. Have also block the president's attorneys and certain members of the minority from participating in witness interviews. There is no comparison between the two processes.

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