(11-13-2019, 06:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(11-13-2019, 06:00 PM)mikesez Wrote: I thought Schiff and Jordan both made their cases pretty well.  Nunes was pretty ineffective.
I wonder if the Democrats can show that Ukraine knew aid was being withheld prior to the July 25th call.  I think the Democrats' accusations become less serious, but still very serious, if Ukraine did not know.  It would show Trump's people to be corrupt but incompetent, which I suppose is less serious than corrupt and competent.
For their part, Republicans could show that Trump was pursuing "corruption in general" in Ukraine as they allege.  The transcript that we have, which is not complete, only mentions crowdstrike and Burisma.  And it only mentions Burisma in connection with Biden - not in general.  If they can show that Trump's interests were actually broad, they could justify that more easily as being "national interest".  But I doubt they have the evidence for that.  We would have seen it by now.

Bahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!

The Mikesez Clown Show continues apace. Such true Republicanism on display as always.

The left couldn't be campaigning better for Trump 2020 if they tried.  Anyone remaining who are objective and open minded will be repulsed by this clown show.  Completely devoid of fact and logic.  Impeachment is for crime, which there was none.  It's not meant for political disagreement.  But here we are, the new normal of dysfunction.

Meanwhile, as a government shutdown looms due to an inactive Congress... the same clowns will blame it on, who else... Trump, of course... when it's their job they aren't doing while wasting their time and our dollars on just another in a long line of lies and deceptions that are nothing more than empty, partisan rhetoric.

I'd be really angry if I were on the left.  Angry at all the lies being fed, expecting me to be stupid enough to buy into without question.  They really have been duped, taken for a ride, and treated like imbeciles by those who have truly betrayed their trust to the American people.

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