(11-15-2019, 03:57 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-15-2019, 03:12 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: So first you can't list what "impeachable offense" The President allegedly committed supported by actual facts.

Now you think that most of your liberal candidates could beat The President "easily"?  

mikey - the humorous gift that keeps on giving.

an impeachable offense is whatever a majority in the House of Representatives says it is.
now if one of our 27 representatives in Florida died or retired tomorrow, and Governor DeSantis saw fit to appoint me to replace them, I would say that any abuse of power is impeachable offense. And I would say that using any presidential power for the sole purpose of making it harder for opponents to beat the incumbent in the next election is an abuse of power. It's just like Aladdin's genie. You can wish for anything except for more wishes. You can use presidential power for anything except trying to gain more power. I would say that trying to make another country's government a friend of one of our political parties and the enemy of another is also an abuse of power. 

Unfortunately, from time to time, our two political parties will disagree over foreign policy and it is inevitable that the foreign countries involved will be tempted to interfere in the next election. But what is not permissible is for the officials that we have elected, or may elect, to reciprocate or initiate.  Robert Mueller searched for hard evidence that Trump reciprocated towards the Russians and he did not find much. however in this case we have a clear example of Trump initiating this type of abusive and unpatriotic relationship with Ukraine. 

when you look over the troubled history of Latin America and the Caribbean, you see that the people who have power or seek power constantly sending out feelers to foreign governments to see if they can get that government (usually the US) to work against their domestic enemies. But I can't think of any other example of the US initiating this kind of thing. it's some banana republic nonsense, and if you accept it you are doomed to live in a banana republic from now on.