(11-16-2019, 11:45 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-15-2019, 08:56 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: If investigating a political rival in order to affect an election is such a crime, why are the Dems doing it?  They freely admit this impeachment proceeding is to prevent Trump from winning the 2020 election.

It is inevitable that investigations into political rivals will affect elections if they occur.
But affecting the election cannot be the primary motive.
And the investigation must be predicated upon probable cause.
It may be that Hunter Biden or Joe Biden violated Ukraine's laws or manipulated Ukraine unethically.
Neither of these things is a violation of US law.

1.) Foreign corrupt practices Act
2.) We have a treaty of cooperation with the ukraine on matters of corruption and criminal law


Trump as US president can be impeached for mere abuse of power, which is a lower and broader standard than violating a specific law.

(11-16-2019, 12:14 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(11-16-2019, 11:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: It is inevitable that investigations into political rivals will affect elections if they occur.
But affecting the election cannot be the primary motive.
And the investigation must be predicated upon probable cause.
It may be that Hunter Biden or Joe Biden violated Ukraine's laws or manipulated Ukraine unethically.
Neither of these things is a violation of US law.
Trump as US president can be impeached for mere abuse of power, which is a lower and broader standard than violating a specific law.

1. Are you claiming that threatening to withhold foreign aid in order to save your son's phony high-paying job isn't an abuse of power?
2. Are you claiming that asking the foreign power to provide any info they have to the AG on a probable abuse of power by the previous administration is itself an abuse of power?
3. Are you claiming that Biden is protected from investigation because he's running against the current president?

These are the takes we get from what you've written. If you believe these things you must be heavily partaking in the Marxist Left's lotus flowers.