(12-15-2019, 08:11 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-15-2019, 02:42 AM)jj82284 Wrote: 2+2=4

If you think its 5 you're objectively wrong.  In the case of impeaching a president for fulfilling his oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the united states & honor our treaty obligations to fight corruption then on its face the whole thing is absurd!  

He asked a foreign power to "spearhead his reelection" or some such nonsense.   There's no such thing as immunity for prospective presidential candidates: that's like saying 2+2=5.  40 plus pages in & no one disputes there's probable cause to look @ the Bidens.  George Kent testified he had to block money going to Burisma it smelled so bad.  John Kerry's son stopped doing business with Hunter because it smelled so bad.  

The owner of the company was named by obama era ambassadors as the most corrupt oligarch in Ukraine.  They get billions and billions of us loan guarantees that dont get paid back.  We get nothing. Bidens son gets 3 million dollars in his pocket.  That's all okay....  Trump asks about and THAT'S impeachable?  It's a joke.  

Its do bad you have a democrat considering switching parties to avoid the fallout.  Dont get me going into process again.  It's a disgrace!  Everyone who bought this grand jury nonsense should be ashamed of themselves.  Under federal rules of evidence hearsay isn't allowed.  If a prosecutor fabricated or altered a statement the way the Democrats have done repeatedly they would be disbarred and thrown in jail.  Go read up on John Miranda.  Look at how we treat rapists murderers and terrorists in this country.  Centuries of common law tradition and precedent based on the god given right to due process and you people want to throw it out to investigate a phone call you have the transcript of?  

But TRUMPS the threat to the constitution?

Oh gosh I guess I get to be the first.
There's no probable cause to look at the Bidens.
If there was, one of our federal prosecutors would have been looking into them. And they would have requested cooperation from one of Ukraine's prosecutors, going through the normal channels.