(12-17-2019, 09:15 PM)jj82284 Wrote:

(12-17-2019, 06:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: You first. You might as well be wearing a rubber nose from what I see.

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1) It's not a transcript. 
2) he didn't want us to have it.
3) what Trump said on the call that day is not the only things that were said by his people to the leadership of Ukraine
4) it shows that Trump doesn't believe his own intelligence agencies about who hacked the DNC and why
5) it shows a particular obsession with Joe Biden applied to foreign relations.
6) it does not show any generalized concern for corruption in Ukraine.

So yeah I looked at it.
I see probable cause to start an investigation just in that document by itself.

Ignorance.  Sheer unadulterated ignorance.  Vindman destroyed points one and two.  Every witness agreed that the ukrainians only found out about the aid after press reports.  

Ignorance

The witnesses said they did not know when Ukraine found out. Ukrainian started admitting to noticing the aid was missing at a certain time but none of the witnesses could rule out that they hadn't found out earlier. There's evidence that they did find out earlier. 
Also, the aid was released the day after the whistleblower report was submitted. But that's just a coincidence in your little mind, I'm sure.

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(12-17-2019, 06:58 PM)pirkster Wrote: The delusion is simply amazing.

Complete disconnect from reality.

This is not a joke.  You truly need help.

You need to step outside of your bubble.

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