(12-17-2019, 07:14 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(12-17-2019, 06:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: You first. You might as well be wearing a rubber nose from what I see.

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1) It's not a transcript. Yes it is, a consolidation of notes taken by six (6) NSA workers who agree on the contents and tenor and also who say nothing untoward occurred.
2) he didn't want us to have it. Who can blame him when everyone in the media and fools like you twist every word into an attempt at overthrow?
3) what Trump said on the call that day is not the only things that were said by his people to the leadership of Ukraine. So? Foreign Policy is his purview.
4) it shows that Trump doesn't believe his own intelligence agencies about who hacked the DNC and why. Who the Hell does after the bull [BLEEP] the FBI pulled?
5) it shows a particular obsession with Joe Biden applied to foreign relations. A brief mention is not an obsession except in your tiny little brain
6) it does not show any generalized concern for corruption in Ukraine. He most certainly discussed cleaning up corruption in that country with its new leadership.

So yeah I looked at it.
I see probable cause to start an investigation just in that document by itself. So much [BLEEP] there aren't enough rodeo clowns on Earth to shovel it.

1) You're jumbling your perspectives and narratives.
It's not the NSA's job to determine if anything untoward is occurring. If they think something untoward is occurring they have a whistleblower process, but it's not up to them to decide if something is actually a problem or not.

2) as Jim Carrey said loudly in the movie liar liar, "then stop breaking the law!"

3) agreed, but Congress has the power to impeach in case he mismanages this, or abuses it. My point here is that there's more to read than just this one "transcript". You agree but there is more to read.

4) he appointed his own FBI chief. He has his own people at other levels. Yet the people who've looked into it, Trump's people and people who came in earlier, are still saying Russia is the one who hacked the DNC server. Only unappointed clown without regular access to info like Giuliani believe that crap. And Trump. But that's more because Trump doesn't read.

5) your perspective shifts again. After admitting that there's more to look at than just one call, now you're narrowing down to just the one call again. Sure, if the only time Trump's people ever mentioned Biden was in this one call, that might not be worth noticing. But we have testimony now that shows it was a pattern. Trump's people talked about biden a lot whenever they were talking to Ukraine.

6) take the transcript, and cross out all references to Joe Biden or crowd strike? I don't see any remaining references to any other corrupt incident, or corruption in general.  Do you?

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