1. Complete lack of discipline  4x personal fouls on UVA's last scoring drive
2. Coaches and players that lack football intelligence Stupid, unnecassary penalties at critical times
3. No accountability Make each stupid play cost playing time, or stadiums, 100 yard suicides, or special 1:1 time with the Strength Coach at 5am
4. Horrific Defensive Coordinator Zero creativity
5. Pathetic play-calling by OC Stop with the bubble screens and 5 yard WR routes, use Akers

I'm embarrassed.  I'm embarrassed for the university, embarrassed of the lack of effort, embarrassed for a head coach that so obviously lack the proper football acumen to lead an elite football program or what was an elite program less than 5 years ago.  I was called most of UVAs and the FSUs plays the entire game.  I'm no guru, but I do know tendencies, formations, and match-ups.  The entire FSU football program lacks focus, attention to detail, and sophistication.  I would be OK if I thought the FSU kids were getting coached up, but they're not.  I might also be OK if I saw smart, consistent play, but I'm not.  I might be OK if I felt the HC was putting his team in the best position to win, but I do not.  And, the worse thing I can say about Taggart is he lacks the outward emotion and emotional intelligence to succeed at FSU.  Don't get me wrong.  He's a nice guy.  And we all know where nice guys finish.
The lights are too bright for Willie, he's in way over his head.  

*Hornibrook was 26-6 as a starter at Wisconsin. That's 26-6 in the Big Ten. Hasn't played a down. Insane.

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Nothing is wrong FSU should stay the course and trust the process

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Spoken like a true UF fan.

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It’s so bad, I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

It's not a good time to be a Noles or Jags fan.
Thank goodness for Netflix.

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I have a feeling jimbo left the cupboard quite bare. He saw the writing on the wall well in advance, and was not building a team for sustained success. Willie is left to sort through the pieces to find anything salvageable, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot. If you don't have a good line, you're not going to do well in the top conferences. I don't know if Willie will be able to build it the way he wants, or if he is able, will it actually work? I don't know that the fanbase will be patient enough to let him get the ship righted.

Being an outsider in TLH, I just sit back and snicker, but not too loudly, since Michigan is kinda (fart noise) recently, too.

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I have a feeling jimbo left the cupboard quite bare. He saw the writing on the wall well in advance, and was not building a team for sustained success. Willie is left to sort through the pieces to find anything salvageable, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot.  If you don't have a good line, you're not going to do well in the top conferences. I don't know if Willie will be able to build it the way he wants, or if he is able, will it actually work? I don't know that the fanbase will be patient enough to let him get the ship righted.

Being an outsider in TLH, I just sit back and snicker, but not too loudly, since Michigan is kinda (fart noise) recently, too.

Jimbo Fisher left FSU with the #3 recruiting class in 2015, the #2 recruiting class in 2016, and the #5 recruiting class in 2017.   He actually left the cupboard full of (37) 4 star and (10) 5 star recruits.  This was vastly greater than Boise State, ULM, and Virginia recruited during that period in time.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2015/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2016/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2017/...s/football

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I have a feeling jimbo left the cupboard quite bare. He saw the writing on the wall well in advance, and was not building a team for sustained success. Willie is left to sort through the pieces to find anything salvageable, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot.  If you don't have a good line, you're not going to do well in the top conferences. I don't know if Willie will be able to build it the way he wants, or if he is able, will it actually work? I don't know that the fanbase will be patient enough to let him get the ship righted.

Being an outsider in TLH, I just sit back and snicker, but not too loudly, since Michigan is kinda (fart noise) recently, too.

Jimbo Fisher left FSU with the #3 recruiting class in 2015, the #2 recruiting class in 2016, and the #5 recruiting class in 2017.   He actually left the cupboard full of (37) 4 star and (10) 5 star recruits.  This was vastly greater than Boise State, ULM, and Virginia recruited during that period in time.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2015/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2016/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2017/...s/football

On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  The defense I believe is a product of poor coaching.  He wanted Jim Leavitt from the beginning but couldn't get him away from Oregon.  He has him now as an analyst who will likely take over as DC the following year when he's allowed to, but I'm not sure Willie will make it that far.

Edit, the rash of injuries on the OL last year didn't help either, they were so thin they were moving defensive tackles over to play offensive guard.

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Jimbo Fisher left FSU with the #3 recruiting class in 2015, the #2 recruiting class in 2016, and the #5 recruiting class in 2017.   He actually left the cupboard full of (37) 4 star and (10) 5 star recruits.  This was vastly greater than Boise State, ULM, and Virginia recruited during that period in time.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2015/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2016/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2017/...s/football

On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  The defense I believe is a product of poor coaching.  He wanted Jim Leavitt from the beginning but couldn't get him away from Oregon.  He has him now as an analyst who will likely take over as DC the following year when he's allowed to, but I'm not sure Willie will make it that far.

Edit, the rash of injuries on the OL last year didn't help either, they were so thin they were moving defensive tackles over to play offensive guard.

Again, with all of the 4 star OL they recruited (consistent with other top 5 teams), it's hard for me to say they got the recruiting wrong.  I blame player development, even dating back to the Jimbo era.  Also, can't overlook the biggest problem this year has been the defense, which has been pinpointed to terrible coaching.

Back to the offensive side of the ball, I'd give Hornibrook (QB) a shot this point.  Blackman has decent stats but seems to be very inconsistent in the 2nd half; most recently missing a wide open WR on a 25 yard pass that  would have resulted in a TD vs Virginia.

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[BLEEP] the Platinum Seminole Booster who fronted his kids lemonade stand. Dick move, bro.

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[BLEEP] the Platinum Seminole Booster who fronted his kids lemonade stand.  Dick move, bro.

Stay tuned for their Go Fund Me page.

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On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  The defense I believe is a product of poor coaching.  He wanted Jim Leavitt from the beginning but couldn't get him away from Oregon.  He has him now as an analyst who will likely take over as DC the following year when he's allowed to, but I'm not sure Willie will make it that far.

Edit, the rash of injuries on the OL last year didn't help either, they were so thin they were moving defensive tackles over to play offensive guard.

Ding
Ding
[wait for it]
Ding.

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Yesterday Steve Spurrier said Taggart is a great coach and FSU should extend him for 10 more years.

Zing!

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On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  The defense I believe is a product of poor coaching.  He wanted Jim Leavitt from the beginning but couldn't get him away from Oregon.  He has him now as an analyst who will likely take over as DC the following year when he's allowed to, but I'm not sure Willie will make it that far.

Edit, the rash of injuries on the OL last year didn't help either, they were so thin they were moving defensive tackles over to play offensive guard.

Ding
Ding
[wait for it]
Ding.

Blame Jimbo.  Common theme.  After all, he shouldn't have settled on recruiting 4 star offensive linemen.  What was he thinking.

2016 Recruiting Class - 4 offensive linemen ranked 4-star 

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...ckerson-52

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...lliams-648

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...rnold-1191

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...h-ball-319

In the meantime, in 2 years, Willie the Recruiting Guru has only been able to land 2 4-star recruits on the OLine.  Also, if you look at the 2020 class, he has about 5 3-stars and 0 4-star offensive linemen.

I'm telling you, it's player development.  Just like the days of Jeff Bowden, where players like Chris Rix were just as good their Freshman year as they were in their Senior year.

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With due respect, Spurrier can go pound sand. The guy can coach.

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Ding
Ding
[wait for it]
Ding.

Blame Jimbo.  Common theme.  After all, he shouldn't have settled on recruiting 4 star offensive linemen.  What was he thinking.

2016 Recruiting Class - 4 offensive linemen ranked 4-star 

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...ckerson-52

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...lliams-648

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...rnold-1191

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...h-ball-319

In the meantime, in 2 years, Willie the Recruiting Guru has only been able to land 2 4-star recruits on the OLine.  Also, if you look at the 2020 class, he has about 5 3-stars and 0 4-star offensive linemen.

I'm telling you, it's player development.  Just like the days of Jeff Bowden, where players like Chris Rix were just as good their Freshman year as they were in their Senior year.

It's like you guys just spill out nonsense without really having a clue...

Dickerson has been hurt his whole career and then transferred to Alabama.  He's finally stayed healthy and is doing well there, but the few minutes he played at FSU not being hurt he was clearly our most talented lineman; either way, he barely played due to health.  

Williams is currently starting at LT and seems to be doing fine.

Mike Arnold got beat out at guard this year by a true freshman Dantae Lucas and was severely overrated (recruiting rankings aren't ALWAYS right). 

Josh Ball I'm not sure what happened but he's no longer on the team.  Edit: Ball was kicked off the team for domestic violence issues.

So, of those 4 4 stars, 2 are on the team, one was no good and one is doing well and 2 are off the team.  

With ALL of that said, the offense has not been the problem this year, so I'm not sure why we're harping on the "full" cupboard that was left on the offensive side of the ball.  On defense, I said it's coaching, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove claiming I'm sitting here blaming Jimbo.  I think in the one game where we had Jim Leavitt for a few days as an analyst, the defense was actually much better, but still not good (maybe from really really bad to just really bad).  Hopefully that improves, we shall see.

Also, no one is just blaming Jimbo, but Taggart inherited a team that went 6-6 the year before he got there. He has plenty of blame to accept but it's a false narrative that he walked into some team completely filled with superstars; however, I agree he has underachieved with the talent that he was given. We should be able to, at a minimum, make a bowl game.

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21-0 FSU at the end of the first.. Then again, it was never really scoring points in the first half that was the problem.. They can't finish or close..

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On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  

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With ALL of that said, the offense has not been the problem this year, so I'm not sure why we're harping on the "full" cupboard that was left on the offensive side of the ball.  

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On the offensive side of the ball, the problem is that he left the cupboard bare at two really important places, OL and QB.  

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With ALL of that said, the offense has not been the problem this year, so I'm not sure why we're harping on the "full" cupboard that was left on the offensive side of the ball.  

Nice job cherry picking a couple of blips of my response.

Just because it's not the main problem doesn't mean it couldn't be a lot better and isn't a problem at times.  If we had a great QB, we probably would've beat UVA.  Blackmon missed two wide open deep balls at the end of the game (one over thrown and one he didn't even see the guy and threw to a different read).  We also continue at times to struggle to open holes for Akers who gets hit at the line time after time and seem to struggle later in games. It also appeared to be a huge problem in quarters 2-3.5 vs. UL, granted they had already put 21 points on the board but all of that was in Q1.

You can post funny GIFs all you want, but your original point is still very incorrect. Which makes sense, since you basically had no rebuttal anyways.

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I have a feeling jimbo left the cupboard quite bare. He saw the writing on the wall well in advance, and was not building a team for sustained success. Willie is left to sort through the pieces to find anything salvageable, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot.  If you don't have a good line, you're not going to do well in the top conferences. I don't know if Willie will be able to build it the way he wants, or if he is able, will it actually work? I don't know that the fanbase will be patient enough to let him get the ship righted.

Being an outsider in TLH, I just sit back and snicker, but not too loudly, since Michigan is kinda (fart noise) recently, too.

Jimbo Fisher left FSU with the #3 recruiting class in 2015, the #2 recruiting class in 2016, and the #5 recruiting class in 2017.   He actually left the cupboard full of (37) 4 star and (10) 5 star recruits.  This was vastly greater than Boise State, ULM, and Virginia recruited during that period in time.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2015/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2016/...s/football

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2017/...s/football

I remember when Jeff Driskel was a 5* recruit for UF

I'd love for someone to do the work to find out how many of today's NFL stars were 5* recruits out of high school.

I mean... the coach staff still has to utilize and develop these kids correctly otherwise, their rankings comin' out of high school mean diddly squat.

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