(11-07-2019, 02:13 PM)Corriewf Wrote: Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen complaints on the board that we could have drafted Mahomes or Watson instead of Fournette in 2017. Did we need a solid rb, sure but where would our team be with Mahomes or Watson right now? 

Who will be the player we pick in 2020 and we can look back and wish we took Tua or Fromm etc etc. 

I will reiterate I think Minshew has the possibility to be our franchise guy. I’m just not willing to bet the franchise on it. The writing is on the wall for me, if the Jags don’t have a dynasty soon, Kahn could pull the cord on Jacksonville being the home of the Jaguars.

Oh you mean the draft that followed the extension for Bortles?
Sounds to me like you need new decision makers in the front office who have, once again, handicapped the team with a contract to a player.

QB was never an option in that draft because they were all-in on Bortles.
Similar situation here with Foles.

That being said, if we can get Kinlaw and Diggs in the first round this year, I won't be mad at them passing on Tua or Fromm.

And please stop with the Jags to London nonsense.

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(11-07-2019, 01:55 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:

(11-07-2019, 01:51 PM)Kane Wrote: Alex Smith was playing VERY well which allowed Mahomes to sit.
I have no problem with a first round guy sitting if the guy ahead of him is clearly better. 

I just think we have an opportunity to use 2 first rounders to get 2 studs on D or OL.
I don't value Minshew as a first rounder... he's a sixth rounder, and for good reasons really.

I look at the QBs we can draft in this coming draft and don't think any of them fair much better behind an OL that needs work. Burrow gets all day protection and has weapons that don't drop the ball. Tua is great with protection and crumbles when under pressure (and now has ankle injury history). I'm not sold on Herbert or Fromm as NFL franchise guys honestly.
That's my personal scouting of these QBs. I've been wrong before (A lot)

I just think if you use high picks on OL, D, weapons... you can have a late round guy come in and be very successful (Dak Prescott, Wilson, Dalton early in his career)
That's what I'd prefer to see them do. Fix the team around WHOEVER is going to be QB in 2020/2021

Ok lets say we go OL, OL and a player on D with our other 1st rounders and get more players on D with maybe an extra TE with the rest of our draft picks in the next 2 years....lets say 4 early/mid round picks for fun.  Thats 7 picks from 1st through 4/5 outside of QB and you dont think thats enough?

wut?
in 2020 we have 2 firsts and a 2nd to get premier talent. That's all I'm concentrating on. Use THOSE 3 picks on OL, OL, CB, or NT. The mid round picks are usually depth and occasionally you hit on a surprise.
in 2021 use a first on a QB if Foles doesn't pan out and Minshew doesn't develop and use the 2nd and 3rd rounders that year for weapons. TE, WR, RB whatever we need at the time. Late to mid round picks on depth

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(11-07-2019, 02:51 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:

(11-07-2019, 02:13 PM)Corriewf Wrote: Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen complaints on the board that we could have drafted Mahomes or Watson instead of Fournette in 2017. Did we need a solid rb, sure but where would our team be with Mahomes or Watson right now? 

Who will be the player we pick in 2020 and we can look back and wish we took Tua or Fromm etc etc. 

I will reiterate I think Minshew has the possibility to be our franchise guy. I’m just not willing to bet the franchise on it. The writing is on the wall for me, if the Jags don’t have a dynasty soon, Kahn could pull the cord on Jacksonville being the home of the Jaguars.

It may be a situation where some fans complain about the moves made but choose to still go down that same path due to previous trauma/ learned repetitive behaviors..  I want to break the trend and at least complain about getting the best rated QB in the draft, if he doesnt do well, instead of some second rate surprise pick like Blake to try and outsmart the league.  I'm just sick of QB purgatory and i refuse to be pulled back down in the hole by scared fans who prefer to stay there.

It isn't about being scared. It's about thinking wisely.

Hey look, if they use the 2020 first rounders to move up and get Burrow or Tua... I won't be complaining really.
But when those QBs fail because we failed to properly address OL and the rest of the roster, everyone will be complaining.

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