(11-08-2019, 10:29 AM)Kane Wrote: https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/11/8/...k-analysis

I know many of you hate going to this site.... but this is why we're going back to Foles.

The OL protected well for the most part Sunday and Minshew couldn't/wouldn't pull the trigger when need be. Tried to make something happen when he should throw it away. And did not see open guys from a clean pocket. Danced and shimmied when he didn't need to. And frankly 8.5 sacks given up are on him when using their break downs.
In 8 starts his rookieness is responsible for a sack a game.

He's not ready. And having him get beat to crap and fumble all over the place isn't going to help him develop.

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(11-08-2019, 10:28 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Those coaches didn't think they were ready. Not to mention, it was Brett Favre..... Are you also trying to say that if Smith had gotten hurt during Mahomes rookie season and Mahomes did his thing, that Reid would have gone back to Smith? Or if Rodgers did his thing after a Favre injury that they would have gone back to Favre? The injury to Foles changed everything. If Foles never got hurt, we obviously wouldn't have seen Minshew but the problem here, is we did see him. We saw him light up Denver and Carolina (both top 10 pass defense teams). 

I'm also talking from a pure Sunday standpoint. The point some are trying to make is that Minshew is somehow learning something on Sundays. What exactly is that? What's he learning in those 3 hours that he couldn't also learn while playing?

There's no right or wrong way to develop a QB. That's clear considering Peyton played every snap as a rookie and Rodgers sat for 3 years behind a HOF QB but once Minshew took control and it was clear the moment wasn't too big and he wasn't hurting the teams chances (but instead winning games) he should have remained the starter.

You are weirdly enamored with Minshew's play which was good for a few games but mostly just OK. (I know he was setting rookie records and yadda yadda, but we weren't winning and he was not good against good teams or good coach staffs)

If he played at a level like Rodgers or Mahomes I could see your gripe... but the kid misses open guys, avoids a rush that isn't there, fumbles a lot, it's all on tape.
Put your feelings aside and chill out dude. We get it, you love you some Minshew. Many of us do too.
But the kid isn't quite ready and sitting won't hurt him.

No wrong way to develop a QB? Then he can sit.

So because I have a different view point, I'm all in my feelings and need to chill out? lol 

This is all personal preference when it comes to developing a QB. My personal preference is to play the rookies right away (1st rounders that is) and let them take their lumps and learn on the job. And if I was Marrone, once I saw Minshew play well, it would have been the end for Foles. Foles is an average QB with high highs and low lows. 

Minshew has flaws right now. That's true but Foles also turns the ball over, takes bad sacks and misses open guys. In 5 games last year, he threw 4 interceptions, took 9 sacks (behind an elite Oline) and had 3 fumbles.

The funny thing here is that I'm not even completely sold on Minshew. I think that's the main thing here. I want him to play as much as possible to determine if he really is the guy because these next two drafts have some very interesting prospects and with the 1st rounders we have, we could make a play on one if we need to.

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