(11-16-2019, 09:17 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:

(11-16-2019, 08:57 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: It was a clean play, there wasn't a flag and it wasn't overly violent compared to everything else going on during every play. I hate to say it, but it seems like there's something else besides the actual play on the field motivating the attitude toward Garrett in this.

Rudolph started the illegal actions, then when he had a chance to get off the field after Garrett retaliated for his actions he instead choose to try to escalate. The worst part about the situation is Garrett's teammates didn't immediately come to his defense, Castro and Pouncey should have been the ones getting hit when they started going after Garrett.

I will say it could benefit the NFL to have a little more competitiveness and hate restored to this rivalry, so even though they're handing out suspensions and talking about discipline they're probably glad for the interest it'll bring.

Jagsordie's comment about kicking Garrett in the head, however, are disgusting.

A blind man could see that it is more toward negative feelings about Garrett than the actual play.  Late hits happen all the time and this one was deserving of a flag at most.  Nothing extremely violent and nothing worthy of Rudolph trying to rip his helmet off because of it.  People trying to say a soft pull to the ground is so excessively violent to make it worthy of Rudolph yanking his helmet out of pain and frustration are just making excuses for him to be the victim.  Players get hit alot worse and "our" own QBs have even been as well.  Starting a fight was never in question and fans may have been pissed, but thats as far as it went.  I've seen OL come to the defense of QBs after hits but never the QB trying to fight the DL, especially when falling on top and not getting driven into the ground.  Rudolph escalated the issue when he could've just got up and let things be.  He clearly pulled Garretts helmet to the point where Garrett was on top of him but others are saying they don't see that.  It could be old age or just bias to support their own viewpoint.  As soon as Rudolph fell on top of him he started yanking at the helmet until Garrett rolled over on top of him and then when Garrett started doing the same then the kick to the groin came.  Some will say Rudolph was trying to get him off of him which is true.  What they wont admit is that he pulled Garrett on top of him by yanking at his helmet first and then when he lost that battle, he ran after him for more.  Bias is the only thing that makes sense and just shows why you cant believe what people say.  Clearly, you always have to watch it for yourself.

Who has said the bolded? 

hint:  nobody has said that nonsense  

You do this all the time.  You weaken your argument by trying to mischaracterize the opposing viewpoint with fiction. It's a terrible way to try to make a point because no one with a brain will take you seriously. 

The hit wasn't late, the take down was.  Rudolph shouldn't have escalated but Garrett should have disengaged prior to that. It doesn't justify Rudolph grabbing the helmet at all - but that could have been prevented if Garrett didn't take it a step too far in the first place.

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