I don't think we need another softie coach. Marrone 'rewarded' the team by creating a looser atmosphere. The players haven't responded. What's strange to me is that Marrone wasn't that way in 2017, his first full year.

As far as roster changes, a running stopping DT, a CB, a true MLB. Would also love to get some guards and maybe another RB.

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Everyone's looking for the next Shanahan and I'm not great on college  coaches but, just spitballing, I see a lot of ex-players turned coaches doing really nice jobs. Obviously you have TV roles pulling some but take someone like Peyton Manning. Would he want to coach? I'm not saying make him HC. Coaches are picked by the HC and usually it's their call but I've been impressed by McCardell and wouldn't mind us bringing a few ex-players back as assistant coaches.

Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

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The team will only go as far as the quality of the offensive line.

Everyone's looking for the next Shanahan and I'm not great on college  coaches but, just spitballing, I see a lot of ex-players turned coaches doing really nice jobs. Obviously you have TV roles pulling some but take someone like Peyton Manning. Would he want to coach? I'm not saying make him HC. Coaches are picked by the HC and usually it's their call but I've been impressed by McCardell and wouldn't mind us bringing a few ex-players back as assistant coaches.

Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

Mayock took Clelin Ferrell over Josh Allen......

I wouldn't mind Louis Riddick for GM. As for the coach, I don't want another retread. Matt Rhule would be really interesting. He has the Jets job locked up but turned it down because they wouldn't let him hire his own staff (seems odd).

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Everyone's looking for the next Shanahan and I'm not great on college  coaches but, just spitballing, I see a lot of ex-players turned coaches doing really nice jobs. Obviously you have TV roles pulling some but take someone like Peyton Manning. Would he want to coach? I'm not saying make him HC. Coaches are picked by the HC and usually it's their call but I've been impressed by McCardell and wouldn't mind us bringing a few ex-players back as assistant coaches.

Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

I also like Louis Riddick.  Just from watching him and hearing him on TV, I think he's a really sharp guy.   I don't think Mayock had any front office experience, but Riddick has quite a bit.

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Everyone's looking for the next Shanahan and I'm not great on college  coaches but, just spitballing, I see a lot of ex-players turned coaches doing really nice jobs. Obviously you have TV roles pulling some but take someone like Peyton Manning. Would he want to coach? I'm not saying make him HC. Coaches are picked by the HC and usually it's their call but I've been impressed by McCardell and wouldn't mind us bringing a few ex-players back as assistant coaches.

Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

Thanks. This is what I was thinking really, just using Manning as an example, the guys knowledge on the field was so impressive. The chess matches him and Belichick D's would have. Could he build a playbook? 
Every year we elect guys to the hall of fame, theres so many great ex-players out there and of course not all will want to coach or could coach at the NFL level but It does feel a bit of an under-utilised path. 

I said I'm not hating the idea of Del Rio as DC. He built that Denver D. Wade Phillip's took it over the top but Del Rio built it up.

Also agree with Riddick. Very knowledgeable guy and seems to get that relationship with the modern players.

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Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

Thanks. This is what I was thinking really, just using Manning as an example, the guys knowledge on the field was so impressive. The chess matches him and Belichick D's would have. Could he build a playbook? 
Every year we elect guys to the hall of fame, theres so many great ex-players out there and of course not all will want to coach or could coach at the NFL level but It does feel a bit of an under-utilised path. 

I said I'm not hating the idea of Del Rio as DC. He built that Denver D. Wade Phillip's took it over the top but Del Rio built it up.

Also agree with Riddick. Very knowledgeable guy and seems to get that relationship with the modern players.

What do you mean built? The broncos defense had a ton of studs on it due to the front office. Wades defenses were elite becuase of him and the players, not because of Del Rio

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Our WRs are a bright spot on the team.  Keenan has done a good job.  Just thinking out loud, I'm not sure he's ready to be a HC.  But we could do worse.  He'd definitely bring some personality and competitive fire to the position which is sorely lacking right now.  In fact, I wouldn't hate pairing him with JDR as the DC.  Del Rio has put good defenses on the field wherever he's been.  If he could graduate to DC specialist like Wade Phillips, I don't think Jack would ever lack for a coaching job.

And I like Kane's suggestion of Louis Riddick as GM.  Mike Mayock went from the analyst chair to the Raiders and has done a good job so far.

Mayock took Clelin Ferrell over Josh Allen......

I wouldn't mind Louis Riddick for GM. As for the coach, I don't want another retread. Matt Rhule would be really interesting. He has the Jets job locked up but turned it down because they wouldn't let him hire his own staff (seems odd).

Mayock sure did... THANKS MAYOCK!!
Although... Clelin isn't doing bad... but he's no Josh Allen.

GM Riddick
HC Bieniemy (Current OC of KC)
OC Dan Campbell (Current TE coach in Nola)
DC Kris Richard (currently defensive passing game coordinator for Cowboys)
A coach staff constructed of fairly young minds that have been surrounded by success and successful HCs for the majority of their careers.

Granted... Usually a HC calls a bunch of guys he knows and is close to, so I'm not sure how likely picking a guy from this tree and that tree is.
But hey... we're spitballing on the cusp on a lost season, so why not.

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Adam Peters or Brandon Hunt would be my choice for GM. I’d trust either to find the right coach and go from there.

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Adam Peters or Brandon Hunt would be my choice for GM. I’d trust either to find the right coach and go from there.

I like these guys but I believe story out of the burgh is Hunt is taking over for Colbert following the 2020 draft. (Or perhaps, after this season allowing Hunt to take control of the draft)

Peters has been there with Lynch through the rebuild of the 9ers and wouldn't be mad about that guy leading the charge either.

But we need to remember... Caldwell was the right hand man of ATL after they seemingly had built a perennial winner and the honeymoon didn't last long and now we're all wondering why he's still here.
Well... not all of us, but some people have a hard time with break ups.

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Mayock took Clelin Ferrell over Josh Allen......

I wouldn't mind Louis Riddick for GM. As for the coach, I don't want another retread. Matt Rhule would be really interesting. He has the Jets job locked up but turned it down because they wouldn't let him hire his own staff (seems odd).

Mayock sure did... THANKS MAYOCK!!
Although... Clelin isn't doing bad... but he's no Josh Allen.

GM Riddick
HC Bieniemy (Current OC of KC)
OC Dan Campbell (Current TE coach in Nola)
DC Kris Richard (currently defensive passing game coordinator for Cowboys)
A coach staff constructed of fairly young minds that have been surrounded by success and successful HCs for the majority of their careers.

Granted... Usually a HC calls a bunch of guys he knows and is close to, so I'm not sure how likely picking a guy from this tree and that tree is.
But hey... we're spitballing on the cusp on a lost season, so why not.

I wouldn’t mind that at all.

Those names came up fairly often a few years ago and we ended up with Marrone, Wash and Hackett.....

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Mayock sure did... THANKS MAYOCK!!
Although... Clelin isn't doing bad... but he's no Josh Allen.

GM Riddick
HC Bieniemy (Current OC of KC)
OC Dan Campbell (Current TE coach in Nola)
DC Kris Richard (currently defensive passing game coordinator for Cowboys)
A coach staff constructed of fairly young minds that have been surrounded by success and successful HCs for the majority of their careers.

Granted... Usually a HC calls a bunch of guys he knows and is close to, so I'm not sure how likely picking a guy from this tree and that tree is.
But hey... we're spitballing on the cusp on a lost season, so why not.

I wouldn’t mind that at all.

Those names came up fairly often a few years ago and we ended up with Marrone, Wash and Hackett.....

I wanted Shanahan or Mcdaniels

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I've been openly advocating for Bieniemy to be hired as our HC for 2 years. I think he knows what it takes to open up the offense.

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OG, OG, DT, DT, CB, FS, ILB, TE in this order. I want to see a healthy Oliver and O'Shaq next year before I make TE a higher priority. Move Jack back outside, and find a few run stuffing D linemen and a inside backer who can tackle. A lot of this teams problems come in the trenches and missing tackles.

I'd also like to see, at the very least, a new DC here next year. I'm tired of the way Wash calls defenses. It's not even the scheme itself, I just don't think he has his guys in the right defense in certain situations... He's never been that good and the only time he's had good defenses is with an absolutely star studded group of players. We are 17th in yards allowed/game, 16th in ppg, and 29th vs the run. Teams don't even need to pass on us, they just run run run run.

Our offense (seen as this team's weakness) is 12th in yards/game, mostly with a backup QB no less.... Our redzone woes is the only real glaring concern on offense and you can attribute that to a young QB not being able to finish drives.. I am far more concerned about our defense though, and we need to see some change made there, if we keep Marrone around anyway.

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I've been openly advocating for Bieniemy to be hired as our HC for 2 years. I think he knows what it takes to open up the offense.

Based on what? Certainly not his playcalling or play design anyway

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I've been openly advocating for Bieniemy to be hired as our HC for 2 years. I think he knows what it takes to open up the offense.

Based on what? Certainly not his playcalling or play design anyway

You don't like the Chiefs play calling and designs?

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Based on what? Certainly not his playcalling or play design anyway

You don't like the Chiefs play calling and designs?

We're getting Andy Reid?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You don't like the Chiefs play calling and designs?

We're getting Andy Reid?

Of course not but assistants under Andy Reid that are current coaches?

John Harbaugh, Matt Nagy, Doug Pederson, Sean McDermott, Pat Shurmur.

That's a pretty decent crop right there including 2 SB winners.

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You don't like the Chiefs play calling and designs?

We're getting Andy Reid?

No, we'd be getting a guy that has coached under Reid his entire KC tenure. And implemented and installed his offense as OC for 2 years with Mahomes.
He also has a lot of experience going back to Colorado U and RB coach and Asst HC with the Vikes 07 and 08 (both years AP led league in rushing).

Everyone knows Reid calls the plays but if the OC didn't have input or any impact, they wouldn't pay someone just to fill the role.
Pederson has had a lot of success in Philly taking what he learned under Reid and making it his own.
Nagy actually has done surprisingly well for someone with Trubisky at QB, a QB he didn't pick and inherited.

But I guess you can try to be funny if you want.
Think you missed the mark though

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I just think we need a culture change, the old school Coughlin way has long been a favorite of mine, but things have changed drastically in the last 3-5 years.. we need a young, updated coaching staff who fits the mold of today’s NFL. I believe the days of old smash-mouth football and a statue QB are evading us unfortunately.. luckily I believe we have some key pieces in place in order to make the change much smoother.. we’ll see.

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Thanks. This is what I was thinking really, just using Manning as an example, the guys knowledge on the field was so impressive. The chess matches him and Belichick D's would have. Could he build a playbook? 
Every year we elect guys to the hall of fame, theres so many great ex-players out there and of course not all will want to coach or could coach at the NFL level but It does feel a bit of an under-utilised path. 

I said I'm not hating the idea of Del Rio as DC. He built that Denver D. Wade Phillip's took it over the top but Del Rio built it up.

Also agree with Riddick. Very knowledgeable guy and seems to get that relationship with the modern players.

What do you mean built? The broncos defense had a ton of studs on it due to the front office. Wades defenses were elite becuase of him and the players, not because of Del Rio

Phillip's took them over the top but Del Rio built the unit. Malik Jackson was a 5th round pick, Trevathan a 6th round pick, both went on to be SB winners. He had a D of young guys and old vets and if you remember they picked up Del Rio at the same time as Manning and Denver moved more resources and focus to O. 

He got them to a SB and it wasnt the D that lost to Seattle. He always had solid D's here and at Oakland. The guys had good success without elite talent. I think you could pick a lot worse.

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