When Caldwell came in and broke this roster back down to expansion level he stacked the deck against himself from the start. Fast forward to today and we are consistently attempting to fill holes that come up faster then we can draft or sign guys. Then factor in the natural misses and it’s never going to work. You can’t hit on every free agent and every draft pick and blowing up a roster leaves you no choice but to hope for perfection.

Caldwell’s arrogance damned this rebuild from the start. Hopefully our next GM keeps some of the serviceable pieces we have in place and builds a roster around any talent we do have.

In the end Caldwell is worse then Shack and Gene, this far removed from a rebuild and we might have one of the worse rosters in franchise history.

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When Caldwell came in and broke this roster back down to expansion level he stacked the deck against himself from the start. Fast forward to today and we are consistently attempting to fill holes that come up faster then we can draft or sign guys. Then factor in the natural misses and it’s never going to work. You can’t hit on every free agent and every draft pick and blowing up a roster leaves you no choice but to hope for perfection.

Caldwell’s arrogance damned this rebuild from the start. Hopefully our next GM keeps some of the serviceable pieces we have in place and builds a roster around any talent we do have.

In the end Caldwell is worse then Shack and Gene, this far removed from a rebuild and we might have one of the worse rosters in franchise history.

Don't know about that underlined statement - but yeah it's bad.

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No one was worse than Gene.

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No one was worse than Gene.

Name a roster worse than this ?

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When Caldwell came in and broke this roster back down to expansion level he stacked the deck against himself from the start. Fast forward to today and we are consistently attempting to fill holes that come up faster then we can draft or sign guys. Then factor in the natural misses and it’s never going to work. You can’t hit on every free agent and every draft pick and blowing up a roster leaves you no choice but to hope for perfection.

Caldwell’s arrogance damned this rebuild from the start. Hopefully our next GM keeps some of the serviceable pieces we have in place and builds a roster around any talent we do have.

In the end Caldwell is worse then Shack and Gene, this far removed from a rebuild and we might have one of the worse rosters in franchise history.

Shack, yes. At least we were competing for the playoffs nearly every year under him. Gene... HELL NO. There is NOTHING Caldwell can do, outside of trading Minshew, Clark, 4nette, and all of our DEs, to be worse than Smith. Smith didn’t even produce or bring in a SINGLE pro bowl player. And he took a punter over DangerRUSS - A PUNTER OVER DANGERRUSS.... think about that for a moment...

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When Caldwell came in and broke this roster back down to expansion level he stacked the deck against himself from the start. Fast forward to today and we are consistently attempting to fill holes that come up faster then we can draft or sign guys. Then factor in the natural misses and it’s never going to work. You can’t hit on every free agent and every draft pick and blowing up a roster leaves you no choice but to hope for perfection.

Caldwell’s arrogance damned this rebuild from the start. Hopefully our next GM keeps some of the serviceable pieces we have in place and builds a roster around any talent we do have.

In the end Caldwell is worse then Shack and Gene, this far removed from a rebuild and we might have one of the worse rosters in franchise history.

Caldwell is not worse than Smith and it's not close.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

What we are seeing now has almost zero to do with that roster purge.

It's all been recycled since then. There are virtually zero remnants.

The purge hurt in the short term. We're seeing more coaching/scheming issues than f.o. issues right now.

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No one was worse than Gene.

Yeah Gene Smith was the worst. Caldwell drafted Ramsey Jack Fowler Yannick Chark Fournette Robinson Taylor

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No one was worse than Gene.

Name a roster worse than this ?

Just off the top of my head - 2012 Jags.

Blaine Gabbert, Cecil Shorts, Justin Blackmon, Eugene Monroe, Cam Bradfield, Uche Nwari, Jeremy Mincey, Alualu, CJ Mosley, Russell Allen, Aaron Ross, Derek Cox, Dawan Landry, Dwight Lowery.

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What we are seeing now has almost zero to do with that roster purge.

It's all been recycled since then.  There are virtually zero remnants.

The purge hurt in the short term. We're seeing more coaching/scheming issues than f.o. issues right now.

I’m not being a jerk. I am honestly asking..What do you think of Deflip after the last 3 weeks?

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I don't think blowing it up is the issue. The issue was that Dave missed so many times at the top of the draft. The team has the high draft picks but constantly chose the wrong player.

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No one was worse than Gene.

Name a roster worse than this ?

Gardner Minshew ALONE was better than ANY player Gene ever drafted.

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What we are seeing now has almost zero to do with that roster purge.

It's all been recycled since then.  There are virtually zero remnants.

The purge hurt in the short term. We're seeing more coaching/scheming issues than f.o. issues right now.

I disagree the purge set all this into motion and it’s been a game of catch-up ever sense.

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What we are seeing now has almost zero to do with that roster purge.

It's all been recycled since then.  There are virtually zero remnants.

The purge hurt in the short term. We're seeing more coaching/scheming issues than f.o. issues right now.

I disagree the purge set all this into motion and it’s been a game of catch-up ever sense.

Nah, the team had no talent at that point. Keeping Bradley too long is the reason we are where we are.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Anyways my point isn’t really let’s debate which shade of crap is darker, hopefully we don’t go through another purge this time around

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Anyways my point isn’t really let’s debate which shade of crap is darker, hopefully we don’t go through another purge this time around

There were wayyyyy worse rosters than what is on the field today and I just had to point one out since you asked.

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Anyways my point isn’t really let’s debate which shade of crap is darker, hopefully we don’t go through another purge this time around

Wait, you literally in the thread title said this is because of the purge. It was the entire point.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That was 6 years ago. That's a lifetime in regards to roster personnel. We have one player left from that roster. 

Might be time to let it go, it's a poor argument.

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The issue is, is that he thought he was smarter than he was. I always go back to us having that great year, almost going to the Super Bowl, then letting damn near everyone go. He felt they had the formula and instead of keeping players that we should have they traded and let them go elsewhere.

Now look at where we are. All we have to do was keep who we had and build on it so we wouldn't continue have to draft players and expect them to be stars right away.

Khan is dumb as hell if he doesn't fire someone tomorrow. You let your star player that you drafted, who brought ticket and jersey sales, media attention which brought in revenue only to be let go because of the FO/coaching staff. Only for us to lose him and become worse, possibly in the midst of a "blow it all up" position.

If Khan doesn't get rid of this FO or coaching staff, he is better off selling the team, he is not holding anyone accountable, we are going to continue getting the same results. Smh this whole situation is crazy

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The issue is, is that he thought he was smarter than he was. I always go back to us having that great year, almost going to the Super Bowl, then letting damn near everyone go. He felt they had the formula and instead of keeping players that we should have they traded and let them go elsewhere.

Now look at where we are. All we have to do was keep who we had and build on it so we wouldn't continue have to draft players and expect them to be stars right away.

Khan is dumb as hell if he doesn't fire someone tomorrow. You let your star player that you drafted, who brought ticket and jersey sales, media attention which brought in revenue only to be let go because of the FO/coaching staff. Only for us to lose him and become worse, possibly in the midst of a "blow it all up" position.

If Khan doesn't get rid of this FO or coaching staff, he is better of selling the team, he is not holding anyone accountable. Smh this whole situation is crazy

He's making 100 million dollars on this crapfest, what does he care?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato