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Allen Robinson wants to stay in Chicago

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Quote:Allen Robinson wants to stay in Chicago, would "love" to be Bears' all-time leading receiver: "I've really enjoyed my two years. We've won a lot of games. From an organization standpoint, it's a top-flight organization and coaching staff."

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I feel like him coming out saying that is like a slight towards the Jags. But maybe I'm looking too much into it.

If anything losing a player of his caliber is just further proof the Jags are a poorly ran front office.
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#2

I think you’re looking too much into it.
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#3

Well Jags organization sucks so...
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#4

Chark is better and big who cares? We offered him a similar offer numbers wise as Chicago and he took their deal. Ours was incentive based and he didn't want to deal with that.
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(12-11-2019, 10:05 PM)Steve Wrote:
Quote:Allen Robinson wants to stay in Chicago, would "love" to be Bears' all-time leading receiver: "I've really enjoyed my two years. We've won a lot of games. From an organization standpoint, it's a top-flight organization and coaching staff."

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I feel like him coming out saying that is like a slight towards the Jags. But maybe I'm looking too much into it.

If anything losing a player of his caliber is just further proof the Jags are a poorly ran front office.

Not a slight. 

He's in a better situation and wants to stay there. Reasonable. 
 The Jags are in lame duck territory with major changes imminent. 
These are merely facts.  I wish Robinson well in Chi. or elsewhere. 

The Jags are in a good place at receiver and have the draft capital to add another quality target in from a very deep 2020 draft class of receivers.
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(12-12-2019, 11:20 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-11-2019, 10:05 PM)Steve Wrote: I feel like him coming out saying that is like a slight towards the Jags. But maybe I'm looking too much into it.

If anything losing a player of his caliber is just further proof the Jags are a poorly ran front office.

Not a slight. 

He's in a better situation and wants to stay there. Reasonable. 
 The Jags are in lame duck territory with major changes imminent. 
These are merely facts.  I wish Robinson well in Chi. or elsewhere. 

The Jags are in a good place at receiver and have the draft capital to add another quality target in from a very deep 2020 draft class of receivers.
I miss ARob (probably a little too much) but you're 100% right. All 3 of the Alabama WRs, Tee Higgins, the kid from Colorado.... This class is deep.
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#7

Someone should tell Allen that his QB is Mitchell Trubisky
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(12-12-2019, 11:25 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Someone should tell Allen that his QB is Mitchell Trubisky

He can stay wherever he likes.  I just enjoy seeing the overthrown passes when they play.  All i keep hearing is him saying,"keep that **** in bounds bro" over and over and over again lol.  It's hilarious.
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(12-12-2019, 11:25 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Someone should tell Allen that his QB is Mitchell Trubisky

Mitch is playing much better recently
I mean... everyone was ready to bury the kid 4 weeks ago and he responded well.
I mean... look what OBJ got when he wanted out from a bad QB situation...
I think between the injury and the coach staff not playing to his strengths, maybe because of injury, he took a step back mid season but still, reasonably, could improve.



Arob is just trying to get a long term big money pay day. Play nice with current team and hope they lock him up. They have an out after this year, he doesn't want them to use it... and they shouldn't. He's getting better post injury.
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#10

Be the all time receiver with the Bears. That shouldn't be too difficult. Their offenses were run based boring offenses through the years.
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#11

The Bears aren't the best but they perform like there's something to play for

Jags are already making vacation plans
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(12-13-2019, 11:35 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: Be the all time receiver with the Bears.  That shouldn't be too difficult.  Their offenses were run based boring offenses through the years.

Walter Payton is the all time leader in receptions with just under 500.  Johnny Morris is leader in yards in just over 5K. Ken Kavanaugh is leader in TDs at 50. He will hit the top 40 in receptions and yards and MIGHT hit the top 30 in TDs this year.  He's got HUGE shoes to fill hitting Jimmy's numbers here.  Makes sense. Jimmy had 862 and over 12K in receiving yards.

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(12-13-2019, 11:15 AM)Kane Wrote:
(12-12-2019, 11:25 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Someone should tell Allen that his QB is Mitchell Trubisky

Mitch is playing much better recently
I mean... everyone was ready to bury the kid 4 weeks ago and he responded well.
I mean... look what OBJ got when he wanted out from a bad QB situation...
I think between the injury and the coach staff not playing to his strengths, maybe because of injury, he took a step back mid season but still, reasonably, could improve.



Arob is just trying to get a long term big money pay day. Play nice with current team and hope they lock him up. They have an out after this year, he doesn't want them to use it... and they shouldn't. He's getting better post injury.

Here's what I like about Chicago though revolving around Mitchell Trubisky. They're not settling on him. There's already been grumbling that after year three they're potentially going to look for an upgrade or his replacement. Our team double downed on Bortles knowing full well that he was still struggling to mechanically improve each year and he had to constantly fly out west to "retool" since he's not a "natural" thrower of the football. 

That alone tells you that at least Chicago takes their jobs seriously. Hell, the same year they drafted Trubisky they had previously already invested a decent amount of money in Mike Glennon just in case they needed an option or two. That's what you're supposed to do.
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(This post was last modified: 12-14-2019, 11:35 AM by JagsFansince1995.)

(12-13-2019, 04:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(12-13-2019, 11:15 AM)Kane Wrote: Mitch is playing much better recently
I mean... everyone was ready to bury the kid 4 weeks ago and he responded well.
I mean... look what OBJ got when he wanted out from a bad QB situation...
I think between the injury and the coach staff not playing to his strengths, maybe because of injury, he took a step back mid season but still, reasonably, could improve.



Arob is just trying to get a long term big money pay day. Play nice with current team and hope they lock him up. They have an out after this year, he doesn't want them to use it... and they shouldn't. He's getting better post injury.

Here's what I like about Chicago though revolving around Mitchell Trubisky. They're not settling on him. There's already been grumbling that after year three they're potentially going to look for an upgrade or his replacement. Our team double downed on Bortles knowing full well that he was still struggling to mechanically improve each year and he had to constantly fly out west to "retool" since he's not a "natural" thrower of the football. 

That alone tells you that at least Chicago takes their jobs seriously. Hell, the same year they drafted Trubisky they had previously already invested a decent amount of money in Mike Glennon just in case they needed an option or two. That's what you're supposed to do.

That is what you are suppose to do but it contradicts the stance alot of our fans take.  We have a 30 yr old QB, a 6th round rookie, and no one feels the need to take a more polished 1st rd QB.  That means we still don't get it or just think we are the outlier.  A good QB can mask the deficiencies on offense but an average to bad QB needs stars around him to look successful.  We are somewhere in the middle with Gardner, and Foles is our poor man's version of Kirk Cousins/Fitzmagic but without the success so far. We still have a shot at this division with a few upgrades here and there but no one feels that QB is a top priority this offseason. Thats alot of faith in the current position group.
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(This post was last modified: 12-14-2019, 11:39 AM by Caldrac.)

(12-14-2019, 11:10 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:
(12-13-2019, 04:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Here's what I like about Chicago though revolving around Mitchell Trubisky. They're not settling on him. There's already been grumbling that after year three they're potentially going to look for an upgrade or his replacement. Our team double downed on Bortles knowing full well that he was still struggling to mechanically improve each year and he had to constantly fly out west to "retool" since he's not a "natural" thrower of the football. 

That alone tells you that at least Chicago takes their jobs seriously. Hell, the same year they drafted Trubisky they had previously already invested a decent amount of money in Mike Glennon just in case they needed an option or two. That's what you're supposed to do.

That is what you are suppose to do but its contradicts the stance alot of our fans take.  We have a 30 yr old QB, a 6th round rookie, and no one feels the need to take a more polished 1st rd QB.  That means we still don't get it or just think we are the outlier.  A good QB can mask the deficiencies on offense but an average to bad QB needs stars around him to look successful.  We are somewhere in the middle with Gardner, and Foles is our poor man's version of Kirk Cousins/Fitzmagic but without the success so far.

I agree with you. I was riding high on Minshew Mania too. Especially after that crazy game he put on display in Denver. He was making guys miss in the pocket like a young Tony Romo while not hesitating to fire one in there like Brett Favre. With that said. He has to SHOW us more in these next three games. 

I know the morale is down. I know the team is pretty much all but lost but it's boom or bust with three weeks left. I want to see this kid finish strong despite the ineptitude engulfing him. No Chark tomorrow. That means he'll only have Conley & Westbrook to get comfortable with and maybe Cole here and there. 

But I want to see this kid either win out and carry the load or at least lose in a close fashion like he did against the tinhorns, Panthers and Saints. I can stomach that. But he has to slow down a bit. I know it's a mofo trying to sit back in the pocket and wait and wait. But he has to hang in there and see an opening and take it. He's still trying to take off and run too early. Which can be good and bad at times. 

But realistically I don't think we have a shot at one of the top two QB's in next draft's draft. I can't see Burrow nor Tagovailoa slipping to us around that 6th - 10th range. And I am just not a fan at ALL of Herbert out of Oregon. Hurts MIGHT run up the draft board if he somehow manages to beat LSU and potentially OSU or Clemson after that but even then it would come down to who is coaching this team in 2020. 

If Greg Roman ends up being the new hire. It's very, very possible he sees a bit of Lamar Jackson in Jalen Hurts. Does he have Jackson's 4.3 speed in a straight line or moves in the open field? Not exactly. But boy is he pretty damn close. Hurts may be the next best thing for this team.

If Roman thinks he's the answer in his offensive approach? And the General Manager agrees with him it's possible you see Hurts called with our first pick of the first round and they try to either beef up the offensive lineman with one of those top OT's or OG's on the board or they go BAP on defense. 

Wouldn't shock me at all.
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(12-14-2019, 11:37 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(12-14-2019, 11:10 AM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: That is what you are suppose to do but its contradicts the stance alot of our fans take.  We have a 30 yr old QB, a 6th round rookie, and no one feels the need to take a more polished 1st rd QB.  That means we still don't get it or just think we are the outlier.  A good QB can mask the deficiencies on offense but an average to bad QB needs stars around him to look successful.  We are somewhere in the middle with Gardner, and Foles is our poor man's version of Kirk Cousins/Fitzmagic but without the success so far.

I agree with you. I was riding high on Minshew Mania too. Especially after that crazy game he put on display in Denver. He was making guys miss in the pocket like a young Tony Romo while not hesitating to fire one in there like Brett Favre. With that said. He has to SHOW us more in these next three games. 

I know the morale is down. I know the team is pretty much all but lost but it's boom or bust with three weeks left. I want to see this kid finish strong despite the ineptitude engulfing him. No Chark tomorrow. That means he'll only have Conley & Westbrook to get comfortable with and maybe Cole here and there. 

But I want to see this kid either win out and carry the load or at least lose in a close fashion like he did against the tinhorns, Panthers and Saints. I can stomach that. But he has to slow down a bit. I know it's a mofo trying to sit back in the pocket and wait and wait. But he has to hang in there and see an opening and take it. He's still trying to take off and run too early. Which can be good and bad at times. 

But realistically I don't think we have a shot at one of the top two QB's in next draft's draft. I can't see Burrow nor Tagovailoa slipping to us around that 6th - 10th range. And I am just not a fan at ALL of Herbert out of Oregon. Hurts MIGHT run up the draft board if he somehow manages to beat LSU and potentially OSU or Clemson after that but even then it would come down to who is coaching this team in 2020. 

If Greg Roman ends up being the new hire. It's very, very possible he sees a bit of Lamar Jackson in Jalen Hurts. Does he have Jackson's 4.3 speed in a straight line or moves in the open field? Not exactly. But boy is he pretty damn close. Hurts may be the next best thing for this team.

If Roman thinks he's the answer in his offensive approach? And the General Manager agrees with him it's possible you see Hurts called with our first pick of the first round and they try to either beef up the offensive lineman with one of those top OT's or OG's on the board or they go BAP on defense. 

Wouldn't shock me at all.

We already have a Glennon and Trubisky for next year, a new QB comes in the 2021 draft once Foles is off the books and/or Minshew loses the job on performance.
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I want neither Burrow nor Tagovailoa. Both are good college QBs in very good college programs, but I don’t see a sustained NFL starter in either.
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