(02-05-2020, 12:03 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:

(02-05-2020, 11:52 AM)Upper Wrote: Man y'all are insane, Luck was great. Just look at all of the triple digits in his rate+ stats despite having some of the worst surrounding talent in the league. He won 11 games in each of his first 3 seasons despite having one of the least talented rosters, and other than the season he tried to play through his labrum tear never had a losing season.

I get the natural bias to knock players on rival teams, but this one is vastly missing the mark.

Not knocking just stating a personal view from watching him and not stats.  I never feared playing Luck like i was worried about Manning due to his inconsistency.  I knew he would be INT prone and as long as we kept him in the pocket, he wasnt going to dominate against even average secondaries.  He had a couple runs and i cant deny that but alot of those stats were against one of the worst divisions in the league with 2 of the worst teams in the league.  I dont think that makes him elite, just my 2 cents based on who he had to play 6 times a year.  thats 5 wins with a split against hou and then 6 against other teams.  Its really not that hard to see why his stats are higher than if he were playing in a tougher division.  Heck we blew them out with a healthy luck, which is something i cant say for other teams with truly elite QBs.

Luck was incredible and if he had the luxury of playing with Andy Reid or someone of that nature, you would see just how great he really was.

However, he was saddled with Pagano. Luck was so unlucky considering he had a bad HC and one of the worst GMS in NFL history.

Bortles blew out Tom Brady in 2018. He also beat Wilson in 2017.

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