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The questions that need to be answered this offseason (spoiler: there's a lot)
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Having followed the Jags for most of their existence, I can't remember an offseason when there have been so many questions about literally every part of this roster. There is some significant talent on the team, but entering a must-win year for the FO and coaching staff, there are a lot of difficult decisions that need to be made over the next few months. Practically every position group has major questions that need to be answered, here's my shot at adding them all up:
QB Is Gardner Minshew a legitimate franchise QB? No bigger question than this. Should the Jags draft a QB early in the draft? What should we do with Nick Foles? RB Do we give Fournette the 5th year option? If not, is this his last year with the team? Do the young guys behind LF have the potential to take over as starters? WR (Possibly the most settled position group on the team, but with obvious room for improvement) If teams scheme to take away Chark, do we have other options that teams will need to worry about? TE Is Josh Oliver ready to assume a starting role and add a different dimension to this offseason? Do we go after one of the big names in FA? OL Which players are truly to blame for the underwhelming overall performance of the line in 2019? Is Cam Robinson still improving as a player, or has he peaked as a mediocre LT? Would Cam be better at guard? Would he be willing to make the switch? Is Norwell good / important enough to justify his salary? Would a rookie LT significantly improve our chances of winning immediately? DL How do we fix the obvious problems with run-defense? Is Dareus an obvious cut for cap reasons? If so, how do we replace him? Is Bryan ready to step up as a reliable full time starter? Is Ngakoue worth setting the market for? Is he still willing to make a deal? Do we tag him and make him play or sit out? Or tag and trade? Is Campbell worth bringing back at his contract price? Would he restructure? How many years does he have left? Is Smoot ready for a bigger role? LB Where should Jack be playing? Who are the other starters? Is Q. Williams still seen as a long-term starter? Does Jake Ryan have anything to offer to this team? How much should we invest in the LB group as a whole, considering Jack's big contract? CB Is Bouye good enough to bring back at his current contract? Is Herndon actually good enough to be considered a reliable starter? Who will be the starters? S Is Wilson good enough to be a starter? Is Harrison actually as good as the perception of him? Is there any reliable depth at the position? I've undoubtedly missed a few questions, but it's pretty clear there is a whole lot of uncertainty around this team entering this offseason. When that's paired with the need to win now, it puts a whole lot of pressure on this staff to find the right answers to these questions. I don't think it's impossible for us to turn it around next year, but ultimately we would need the vast majority of these questions to be answered in a positive way. I think we can all agree that that's not how things usually work around here. Of course, if the answer to the first question on this list (Minshew) quickly becomes a resounding yes, then the other questions quickly seem much less pressing. Again, it seems like a lot to hope for. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
I feel like it can all be done in this offseason if they make the moves that make the moat sense. We have a good problem at qb, 2 qbs that can play whoever wins out in summer camp would start. I really believe in Minshew I feel if we can get a good deal for Foles trading him could work out for us. And for the moves as what I posted in another thread, I feel something like this could shore everything up..
I think we should keep Fournette, he is producing...had a great season last year. You give him a good deal, nothing to crazy. We just keep making it seem like every player is so easy to replace. Who was the last good RB we had, that was really producing on the field...was it MJD? We are solid at RB, lets fix the positions that we are weak at..Work out a deal with 4nette guaranteed for 3 years, make the deal to where if we have to let him go after that its not that much of a loss. We also forget about the team chemistry, it takes a while for players to come together. We should take Mims in the 3rd as WR or someone of his caliber Pickup a mid tier OT free agent or maybe 2nd round if we can land a good one Also see if we can find decent veteran TE, O'shaughnessy is a solid player, the two veterans can help Oliver improve his game. On the D side we can cut Dareus unless he is willing to restructure and go after Snacks Harrison either way. Draft Simmons, Kinlaw or Brown with the 1st and go after the best available DB with our 2nd 1st. Keep Bouye and Yan, they are both producing! Again stop getting rid of players who are producing, it just makes us get weak and have to use draft picks to get the same or less production. When was the last really good CB we've had or really good DE we've had? I think some of ya'll do things just to make transactions because there is nothing else to do. We def keep Campbell, it would make no sense to get rid of our team leader that is producing at a pro bowl level, he is one of the reasons we had that 2017 season, let him retire here as long as he is producing. Pickup Tony Jefferson for our safety position and some veteran leadership. Add another LB, maybe a veteran free agent draft another CB later on and BAP in the draft If we follow this plan, we will def compete next year
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QB - Q1 is the biggest unknown to be decided this year. Because of that, the answer to Q2 is likely "no", unless you see a guy as being a fixture at the position long-term while also being a clear upgrade over the guys we already have under contract. Foles is not a question until next offseason, as Q1 may decide whether Foles is expendable or not, and the current cap implications are too big a pill to swallow. RB - Watch the FA market this year to gauge the pricing. I don't think anyone is going to get L. Bell money, and I imagine the Jest have plenty of buyer's remorse on that deal. We need to find someone that complements or replaces him by next year. I would still like to see a decent offer made for him. He's never going to be Freddie T, but his talents are still useful. WR: agreed, not many questions for now. If Chark continues to do well, we may have to start looking at how big a deal he will warrant, though. TE: One question to add, regrettably: Is Josh Oliver our next Marqise Lee? If he has trouble staying healthy this year, I think we have to look to replace his potential. OL: agreed on questions, except I might also be looking at the coaching with regard to stalled development. DL: Yes Dareus is an obvious cut. Yes, Calais is worth keeping around, but a one-year extension/restructure may soften that blow. No, Yan is not worth setting the market, although he will probably command 20-22M over 4 or 5 years if you want to keep him here. The others are still to be decided, and are worth considering. Another Q - Do we replace Dareus through darft or FA? LB - Jack belongs outside, but I doubt he moves this season. Ryan belongs in free agency, Williams probably gets this year to prove that he can be a fixture, otherwise they start looking to upgrade that spot too. DB: I hope we keep Bouye at least this year. I don't want our starters to be Herndon and a rook, Bouye will prove valuable on the practice field demonstrating technique and anticipation that will help them develop. If we do get a rook that can start, I prefer to start him over Herndon for now, but if he can unseat Bouye, that's a great problem to have. Wilson is replaceable, and I imagine some mid-to-late round picks will be added to have some competition in the defensive backfield. ST: How can we get the rules changed where a TD is 1 point, and field goals are 7? (02-24-2020, 10:14 AM)JagJohn Wrote: ...Well, you got answers hours after posting on two of these. Dareus and Ryan are gone. RE: the tight end group - The Jags are at least interested in trading for Hurst so they (wisely) want to augment the talent pool before camp. I wouldn't take that as any indication about Oliver though. I think Oliver will be a good receiving TE if he can stay healthy. (02-24-2020, 04:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:Maybe not as drastic but a Chark season 2 type of jump is possible.(02-24-2020, 10:14 AM)JagJohn Wrote: ...Well, you got answers hours after posting on two of these. I would rather trade a 5th rounder for Hurst than draft a TE this year. This years crop is pretty weak and rookie TEs rarely make an impact. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-24-2020, 04:27 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(02-24-2020, 04:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Well, you got answers hours after posting on two of these.Maybe not as drastic but a Chark season 2 type of jump is possible. Agreed on the last point 100%.
A jump like Chark took is very rare and should not be counted on for any of our rookies.
(02-25-2020, 10:45 AM)Upper Wrote: A jump like Chark took is very rare and should not be counted on for any of our rookies. It's not that rare. Second year players that barely saw the field as rookies produce commonly around the NFL. It's merely fan's misperception of Chark's rookie season that makes it seem rare. He wasn't "bad." He barely played until we were down to Kessler and he had a few ugly drops. His route running was unpolished, but the ability still showed at times, and his ball tracking and body control appeared off the charts. Fans were just so downtrodden by the time he starting getting snaps they piled on the kid as a bust with every dropped pass and every non-flashy weekly stat-line. I felt confident Chark could be at least a 600-700 yard contributor in his second year and he obviously eclipsed that handily. Based on watching the few games that featured a "healthy" rookie Oliver, I feel confident he's capable of being a 500 yard and 4 TD guy in year two. I don't think anyone is "counting on" anything around here from unproven players. We're speculating like we always do. But Oliver showed he can get open downfield against NFL defenses in weeks 8, 9 and 11 while he was relatively healthy. He just didn't get targets. I'd like to see where that goes in his second year and I think it very well may turn into production.
(02-24-2020, 10:14 AM)JagJohn Wrote: Having followed the Jags for most of their existence, I can't remember an offseason when there have been so many questions about literally every part of this roster. There is some significant talent on the team, but entering a must-win year for the FO and coaching staff, there are a lot of difficult decisions that need to be made over the next few months. Practically every position group has major questions that need to be answered, here's my shot at adding them all up: Don't worry. All of the above are currently being addressed. ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-25-2020, 01:03 PM)JagJohn Wrote: https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...02464?s=20 Not surprising. He couldn't get it done. And he's a better play maker when limited to one side of the football field. Now we'll need to keep an eye out on the ILB position. Probably looking at Joe Schobert and Blake Martinez at the minimum getting looked at during free agency. Simmons with the 9th overall selection or Murray with the 20th overall selection shouldn't surprise anybody neither. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (02-25-2020, 11:47 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Based on watching the few games that featured a "healthy" rookie Oliver, I feel confident he's capable of being a 500 yard and 4 TD guy in year two. 500 yards and 4 TDs would have been on the low end of people's predictions in the Oliver rookie preseason thread. (02-25-2020, 07:50 PM)Upper Wrote:(02-25-2020, 11:47 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Based on watching the few games that featured a "healthy" rookie Oliver, I feel confident he's capable of being a 500 yard and 4 TD guy in year two. And then he was injured. Twice. What's your point? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-25-2020, 09:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(02-25-2020, 07:50 PM)Upper Wrote: 500 yards and 4 TDs would have been on the low end of people's predictions in the Oliver rookie preseason thread. A prediction of less than what most people were predicting he would do as rookie would not come close to Chark like 2nd year jump. (02-25-2020, 11:55 PM)Upper Wrote:(02-25-2020, 09:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: And then he was injured. I never said anything about him taking a “Chark like” jump. But it wouldn’t be dissimilar. Chark got very little opportunity as a rookie, and Oliver got even less. So there are similarities even though I wasn’t comparing them at all. I was just pointing out that rookie to 2nd year leaps are not uncommon and Oliver is a fine candidate to show production in year two. Just as Chark was. (02-25-2020, 01:11 PM)Caldrac Wrote:(02-25-2020, 01:03 PM)JagJohn Wrote: https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...02464?s=20 Honestly it sounds a lot more like him/them (Marrone/Caldwell etc) trying to cover up their mistake of having a garbage LB room/group, that has very little talent. If Jack had people next to him at LB that were any good, he wouldn't have to worry about trying to do his job, as well as everybody else's... It's not a shock that he played very well when he had Telvin next to him, because Telvin knew his [BLEEP]. Jack didn't have to compensate for him. Having a rookie/cast off special teamers next to him made a huge difference and it clearly showed.
I can't believe people are falling for the "Jack isn't doing his job because he is worried about everyone else doing their job" hahahahaha
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