If we’re being honest Garrard was below average. We got great value in the 4th round as much as a team could ever get, but he was below average. On his best days he was slightly above average.

Brunell’s best game was probably 375 yards and 4 TDs (hypothetical)

Bortles best day was probably in a blow out when we were losing 50-0 at halftime but he finished with 350 yards and 4 TDs.

Garrard’s best day was Probably 286 yards and 3 TD’s. He forced throws he couldn’t make and he limited our offense to slants and roll outs. He was very below average. But hey that’s just my opinion.

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If we’re being honest Garrard was below average. We got great value in the 4th round as much as a team could ever get, but he was below average. On his best days he was slightly above average.

Brunell’s best game was probably 375 yards and 4 TDs (hypothetical)

Bortles best day was probably in a blow out when we were losing 50-0 at halftime but he finished with 350 yards and 4 TDs.

Garrard’s best day was Probably 286 yards and 3 TD’s. He forced throws he couldn’t make and he limited our offense to slants and roll outs. He was very below average. But hey that’s just my opinion.

Bortles best game  was week 2 of 2018 when he threw for 380 and 4 td's and in 2015 against Marcus Mariota in Tennessee he had 320 yards and 5 TDS

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Garrard also had Fred/MJD and for a while Jimmy to throw to.

However I'm not sure we ever used him effectively. I think somebody in today's era would probably use his athleticism better.

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David Garrard is our Rodney Dangerfield....

No respect I tell ya.

Dude was never an elite QB and in today's NFL he'd barely be a starter. But during his tenure here he fought thru Crohn's, was relatively healthy, a solid leader, and had complete shite to work with at WR for the majority of his time as a starter.
And he gave us one of our few playoff runs and was a couple dropped passes from probably taking us to a SB.

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David Garrard is our Rodney Dangerfield....

No respect I tell ya.

Dude was never an elite QB and in today's NFL he'd barely be a starter. But during his tenure here he fought thru Crohn's, was relatively healthy, a solid leader, and had complete shite to work with at WR for the majority of his time as a starter.
And he gave us one of our few playoff runs and was a couple dropped passes from probably taking us to a SB.

If anything, David Garrard was overrated because people here treated him like he was some above a starter when reality had said otherwise during his tenure as the QB. 

For instance, David Garrard got Bench in 2006 for Quinn Gray based on underperform as the starter for Byron Leftwich.  His receivers was suspect so was Blake but we don't get him no slack for the same situation. However, David Garrard had the best running back tandem doing the history of this franchise, a very good offensive , good tight end in Marcedes Lewis who was ranked in the top 10 at that time, great defense good head coach and good offensive coordinators. Despite all the things that was at David Garrard disposal he still underachieved for the QB of our franchise. What we need to stop doing is making excuses for him and act like the cover was bear during his tenure as a our quarterback.

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David Garrard is our Rodney Dangerfield....

No respect I tell ya.

Dude was never an elite QB and in today's NFL he'd barely be a starter. But during his tenure here he fought thru Crohn's, was relatively healthy, a solid leader, and had complete shite to work with at WR for the majority of his time as a starter.
And he gave us one of our few playoff runs and was a couple dropped passes from probably taking us to a SB.

If anything, David Garrard was overrated because people here treated him like he was some above a starter when reality had said otherwise during his tenure as the QB. 

For instance, David Garrard got Bench in 2006 for Quinn Gray based on underperform as the starter for Byron Leftwich.  His receivers was suspect so was Blake but we don't get him no slack for the same situation. However, David Garrard had the best running back tandem doing the history of this franchise, a very good offensive , good tight end in Marcedes Lewis who was ranked in the top 10 at that time, great defense good head coach and good offensive coordinators. Despite all the things that was at David Garrard disposal he still underachieved for the QB of our franchise. What we need to stop doing is making excuses for him and act like the cover was bear during his tenure as a our quarterback.

cover was bear?

First, Garrard certainly had a habit of throwing INTs at the most inopportune times. He was benched for Quinn Gray? For what like one game? The following season Garrard was named starter and threw only 3 INTs. Good offensive coordinators his whole career? Then why were they replaced after 06?
Blake's receivers were never suspect. Allen Robinson and Hurns bailed Blake out all the time.

Great defense? In Garrards time as starter we couldn't muster a pass rush to save our lives (hence over reaching for the Harvey/Groves debacle.) After JDR was let go, everyone flamed him as a terrible coach, not a good one. Lewis literally had one really good season as a receiving TE, 07, the season Garrard played well and led us to the AFCCG with Reggie Williams and Matt Jones and Earnest Wilford at his disposal.
Yes, he had arguably one of the best RB duos of all time at his disposal.... And we leaned heavy on those guys.
But our vaunted D wasn't what it once was by the time Garrard was named starter, and our receiving weapons were some of the worst of all time.

And as I said, he was never elite... but to say a 4th round draft pick, that eventually unseated Byron Leftwich for the starting role, and led us to an AFCCG that his receivers and the defense let him down in, underachieved is just plain stupid and wrong. If anything he overachieved given the circumstances. Over rated? By rating him the 3rd or 4th best QB of our franchise?
Do you even know what that word means?

If anything, outside of inflated stats, Garrard gave us just as much as Bortles ever did, with less.
Bortles had a better D for the majority of his time, he got more starts, and had better weapons on the outside. Bortles also played during a time when the AFCS was much weaker than it used to be, when Manning led the clots and the tacks always had strong defenses.

Meanwhile Leftwhich could never stay healthy and led us to one playoff berth (which, technically Garrard led us to down the stretch winning 4 of the last 5) and lost the game.

So yeah Garrard doesn't get enough respect around here especially from people who think Bortles or Leftwich were so much better, when they really weren't.
And they were first round "franchise" QBs.

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David Garrard is our Rodney Dangerfield....

No respect I tell ya.

Dude was never an elite QB and in today's NFL he'd barely be a starter. But during his tenure here he fought thru Crohn's, was relatively healthy, a solid leader, and had complete shite to work with at WR for the majority of his time as a starter.
And he gave us one of our few playoff runs and was a couple dropped passes from probably taking us to a SB.

If anything, David Garrard was overrated because people here treated him like he was some above a starter when reality had said otherwise during his tenure as the QB. 

For instance, David Garrard got Bench in 2006 for Quinn Gray based on underperform as the starter for Byron Leftwich.  His receivers was suspect so was Blake but we don't get him no slack for the same situation. However, David Garrard had the best running back tandem doing the history of this franchise, a very good offensive , good tight end in Marcedes Lewis who was ranked in the top 10 at that time, great defense good head coach and good offensive coordinators. Despite all the things that was at David Garrard disposal he still underachieved for the QB of our franchise. What we need to stop doing is making excuses for him and act like the cover was bear during his tenure as a our quarterback.

LOL...David Garrard got 'benched' the last game of the year in 2006 in the second half against KC when the season was already over.

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If anything, David Garrard was overrated because people here treated him like he was some above a starter when reality had said otherwise during his tenure as the QB. 

For instance, David Garrard got Bench in 2006 for Quinn Gray based on underperform as the starter for Byron Leftwich.  His receivers was suspect so was Blake but we don't get him no slack for the same situation. However, David Garrard had the best running back tandem doing the history of this franchise, a very good offensive , good tight end in Marcedes Lewis who was ranked in the top 10 at that time, great defense good head coach and good offensive coordinators. Despite all the things that was at David Garrard disposal he still underachieved for the QB of our franchise. What we need to stop doing is making excuses for him and act like the cover was bear during his tenure as a our quarterback.

cover was bear?

First, Garrard certainly had a habit of throwing INTs at the most inopportune times. He was benched for Quinn Gray? For what like one game? The following season Garrard was named starter and threw only 3 INTs. Good offensive coordinators his whole career? Then why were they replaced after 06?
Blake's receivers were never suspect. Allen Robinson and Hurns bailed Blake out all the time.

Great defense? In Garrards time as starter we couldn't muster a pass rush to save our lives (hence over reaching for the Harvey/Groves debacle.) After JDR was let go, everyone flamed him as a terrible coach, not a good one. Lewis literally had one really good season as a receiving TE, 07, the season Garrard played well and led us to the AFCCG with Reggie Williams and Matt Jones and Earnest Wilford at his disposal.
Yes, he had arguably one of the best RB duos of all time at his disposal.... And we leaned heavy on those guys.
But our vaunted D wasn't what it once was by the time Garrard was named starter, and our receiving weapons were some of the worst of all time.

And as I said, he was never elite... but to say a 4th round draft pick, that eventually unseated Byron Leftwich for the starting role, and led us to an AFCCG that his receivers and the defense let him down in, underachieved is just plain stupid and wrong. If anything he overachieved given the circumstances. Over rated? By rating him the 3rd or 4th best QB of our franchise?
Do you even know what that word means?

If anything, outside of inflated stats, Garrard gave us just as much as Bortles ever did, with less.
Bortles had a better D for the majority of his time, he got more starts, and had better weapons on the outside. Bortles also played during a time when the AFCS was much weaker than it used to be, when Manning led the clots and the tacks always had strong defenses.

Meanwhile Leftwhich could never stay healthy and led us to one playoff berth (which, technically Garrard led us to down the stretch winning 4 of the last 5) and lost the game.

So yeah Garrard doesn't get enough respect around here especially from people who think Bortles or Leftwich were so much better, when they really weren't.
And they were first round "franchise" QBs.

Do you remember those 4 out of 5 games? He was throwing directly to their DBs - they just dropped it. He got very, very lucky in that stretch.

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cover was bear?

First, Garrard certainly had a habit of throwing INTs at the most inopportune times. He was benched for Quinn Gray? For what like one game? The following season Garrard was named starter and threw only 3 INTs. Good offensive coordinators his whole career? Then why were they replaced after 06?
Blake's receivers were never suspect. Allen Robinson and Hurns bailed Blake out all the time.

Great defense? In Garrards time as starter we couldn't muster a pass rush to save our lives (hence over reaching for the Harvey/Groves debacle.) After JDR was let go, everyone flamed him as a terrible coach, not a good one. Lewis literally had one really good season as a receiving TE, 07, the season Garrard played well and led us to the AFCCG with Reggie Williams and Matt Jones and Earnest Wilford at his disposal.
Yes, he had arguably one of the best RB duos of all time at his disposal.... And we leaned heavy on those guys.
But our vaunted D wasn't what it once was by the time Garrard was named starter, and our receiving weapons were some of the worst of all time.

And as I said, he was never elite... but to say a 4th round draft pick, that eventually unseated Byron Leftwich for the starting role, and led us to an AFCCG that his receivers and the defense let him down in, underachieved is just plain stupid and wrong. If anything he overachieved given the circumstances. Over rated? By rating him the 3rd or 4th best QB of our franchise?
Do you even know what that word means?

If anything, outside of inflated stats, Garrard gave us just as much as Bortles ever did, with less.
Bortles had a better D for the majority of his time, he got more starts, and had better weapons on the outside. Bortles also played during a time when the AFCS was much weaker than it used to be, when Manning led the clots and the tacks always had strong defenses.

Meanwhile Leftwhich could never stay healthy and led us to one playoff berth (which, technically Garrard led us to down the stretch winning 4 of the last 5) and lost the game.

So yeah Garrard doesn't get enough respect around here especially from people who think Bortles or Leftwich were so much better, when they really weren't.
And they were first round "franchise" QBs.

Do you remember those 4 out of 5 games? He was throwing directly to their DBs - they just dropped it. He got very, very lucky in that stretch.

God that sounds eerily similar to was often said about Blake.

I remember a lot about those years... the back and forth with Leftwich getting hurt, Garrard filling in.... Leftwich being named starter again... getting hurt again.... Fact is... come 2007 Garrard was more reliable, even with his penchant of throwing INTs or near INTs (which don't count for anything.)
In Garrards entire career, he was the actual starter for like 2 seasons. But he came in and filled in admirably as Leftys backup numerous times.
As a starter he led us to one of the best seasons I can remember when we beat Pitt in Pitt twice and were oh so close to beating the undefeated Pats.

Lefty didn't give us that. Bortles gave us something similar but with arguably a better team.

My whole point isn't to try to put Garrard in the hall. Just that fans give him hate for no good reason. Dude was a 4th rounder who outperformed outside of the stats both Leftwich and Bortles, imo.
So this whole overhyped thing is nonsense.
When ranking Jags QBs he's no lower than 4th and an argument could be made that he was 2. (Not counting Minshew at all, because of such a small resume)
Had Leftwich stayed healthy, he's probably the best QB we ever had, but he got hurt every season it seemed like and never won anything of importance. Bortles never could put together much of anything. Instead only showing flashes and padding his stats.

To act like those guys are head and shoulders above Garrard is silly.

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Garrard is ranked between Bortles and Leftwich where he belongs.

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