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Telvin Smith Arrest [was Jags release Telvin Smith]

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(04-29-2020, 11:20 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:
(04-29-2020, 08:07 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: I would never make excuses for that kind of behavior.. but there’s a distinct difference between fooling around with a grown looking woman and finding out she was lying about her age, or just being straight up attracted to little kids. I’m willing to bet Telvin was probably using drugs and being an idiot.. but I don’t really think he was messing with little kids.. who knows. Terrible
News either way. And still highly illegal and wrong. But there a difference

I agree, we need some context. If they're 17 and they lied, or had fake ID, one thing. If he is legit touching kids and seeking kids, completely different and he deserves the worst done to him, prison is too lax of a punishment.

 I am a due process kinda guy, but this doesn't look good at all for Smith regardless. FL is stupid strict when it comes to statutory rape. Even if they are 16/17, doesn't matter if she lied, even if she has a fake ID that says shes 18, 21, or older... You are going to prison, consensual or not, and she walks free. #equality!! I've heard rumblings there were also drug charges?? 

Crazy crazy stuff.

Some people don't seen to grasp that point.

(04-30-2020, 10:24 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote:
(04-30-2020, 10:19 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'm sure the seized his computer as well, which could be quite interesting.

Dude he’s not a pedophile. It’s not like his computer has child porn on it. He got caught up with a 17 year old who lied about her age. Huge difference

You know what evidence they have?  As of right now, all that's been reported is that JSO does have evidence of sexual encounters between the two, including him coming up with a cover story if anyone asks about their relationship.  The girl didn't lie about her age.  He knew she was underage when he pursued her.  If you were a father with a daughter around the same age, and this happened to her, I'm thinking your tune would be completely different.

(04-30-2020, 05:00 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: As I understand the law, and I could be wrong about this he is facing criminal charges so there is no "settling out of court".  He has been charged with a crime rather than being sued.  I assume the allegation that she told him she was under age and the fact that he told her "he could go to jail for this" is documented evidence, otherwise it wouldn't be in the arrest report.

The evidence (as reported) isn't good for him and my thinking is that his only hope is to plea down to a lesser charge.  Either way I think he's going to serve some time.

Bingo.  They've got a ton of evidence that they've collected since November.  They've got corroborating witnesses.  They've got evidence from his vehicle.  This isn't a circumstantial case.  His only option is to plea this down if the reports about the evidence are accurate.

(04-30-2020, 11:07 PM)Dewboy01 Wrote:
(04-30-2020, 05:00 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: As I understand the law, and I could be wrong about this he is facing criminal charges so there is no "settling out of court".  He has been charged with a crime rather than being sued.  I assume the allegation that she told him she was under age and the fact that he told her "he could go to jail for this" is documented evidence, otherwise it wouldn't be in the arrest report.

The evidence (as reported) isn't good for him and my thinking is that his only hope is to plea down to a lesser charge.  Either way I think he's going to serve some time.
That would be true for you and me - but we all know that there are different rules for the wealthy. He can "settle with her" (pay her off with life altering money) and all of a sudden, there's an uncooperative witness who isn't willing to testify, making a trial much more difficult for the prosecution. Of course if the girl has cooperated to this point, hopefully she sees it through.
If he has been charged with a crime here (which he has), there's no settling out of court.  The girl has already provided her account, and she has corroboration from multiple people she spoke with after the incident.  There's no need for her not to cooperate at this point.  He can certainly plea deal this if his legal team thinks that's the best approach.  He's not writing a check and getting out of this.  That's a civil matter, and he may very well be dragged into civil court by the girl at some point, and then he'll need to break out the checkbook.
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RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Jag88 - 04-29-2020, 04:08 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Upper - 04-29-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by MoJagFan - 04-29-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by JagSwag - 04-29-2020, 04:29 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by jaguarmvp - 04-29-2020, 04:32 PM
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RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Caldrac - 04-29-2020, 04:48 PM
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RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Brindle91 - 04-29-2020, 06:23 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Jags - 04-29-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by WingerDinger - 04-29-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Jagwired - 04-29-2020, 07:20 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Jags - 04-29-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by JagsFanSince95 - 04-29-2020, 08:28 PM
RE: Jags release Telvin Smith - by Jags - 04-29-2020, 08:36 PM
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