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**NYC4jags** · 06-24-2020, 01:31 PM

(06-24-2020, 11:30 AM)Kane Wrote:
(06-13-2020, 09:33 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: fixed

I get it, Kane. Don't get me wrong.

But we're already seeing spikes in 22 states due to the reopening phases being implemented. The reason people like me are slightly more cautious by using masks and limiting where we go and how often we go out isn't because we're "scared." We want to get back to "life" without another giant surge of infection and a second round of mass quarantining.

I'm on course to get back to work in mid August. Been unable to work since March 13. I'm out tens of thousands of dollars that I'll be lucky to get 20% of from PUA if I even see a penny. I don't want a second wave of infection to ruin my livelihood like the first one did because proper precautions were not taken.

But as we see number of cases spike, due to increased testing mostly, we see that the majority of these new cases are with people in an age range where they are showing little to no symptoms and are not being hospitalized. The death rate is still relatively low. The massive amounts of new cases just keep dropping the mortality rate of Covid-19.

The flattening of the curve was intended to make it so hospitals weren't overwhelmed. They are better prepared now and won't be overwhelmed. The majority of people adversely affected by this virus are still the elderly and the people with serious health conditions.
The cases are going to surge in any state once the reopening happens. NY hasn't surged because they still have strict lockdowns happening. Are they going to remain closed through Summer, Fall and into the Winter?

There is no reason that we should be worried about some massive wave of deaths coming.
It ain't happening. And really based on the information that has come out, the death count isn't really accurate. Anyone who dies from anything with Covid is being counted as a covid death, even if it wasn't the actual cause. Will some people die? Absolutely. But people die every year from the flu, obesity complications, over doses, old age, falls, accidents... People die. It's the only thing guaranteed about life.

I'm really missing what everyone this the magical fix is though... remain locked down into 2021 until a vaccine is readily available? That is insane. Talk about ruining people's livelihood... unless you work for fast food or Walmart.
For those at the most severe risk, they should definitely stay inside until it is available. The elderly and the sick should hunker down and wait for the government and big pharma to come out with their magical vaccine.
Everyone else needs to keep the economy afloat instead of hoping for more government spending to save the day.

A few points of clarity on your post:

These 20-35 age group cases you're referring to can still infect anyone they come in contact with. Let's not gloss that over, please.
The mortality rate being touted right now of .26 percent is predicated on an assumed "asymptomatic carrier rate" and even still it means that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is 2.5 TIMES that of the flu.
Stop comparing them. It's a [BLEEP] comparison.

Phase 2 of reopening in the state of NY begins Monday.

I'm not trying to warn you about a wave of death. I'm telling you that 1.3% of people over 65 who contract Covid-19 will die from it. A cavalier attitude towards distancing endangers that demographic.

If you are attempting the old natural selection "acceptable tally of death" routine here - you need to ask yourself if acting irresponsibly instead of following a few simple guidelines is worth more to you than the deaths of thousands of elderly Americans that could be prevented. That's between you and your conscience.