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Expectations/Plans for Jags new offense under Gruden

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(06-02-2020, 03:44 PM)hb1148 Wrote:
(06-02-2020, 01:36 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Can a talented roster underperform due to poor coaching? 

If you answer “yes” then there are other things the hell else to look at.

It can in the short term, not in the long term.
If the record isn't evidence of the effectiveness of a GM, why not just argue that the Jags are the best team in the NFL the last 20 years? An armchair analysis of the state of the roster is well and good but over time, you are what your record says you are.

I'd amend the bolded with - "eventually, it's on the GM to fix the coaching issue too."  

After that -- Not sure what you're getting at with the "best in the league" thing. That seems a far cry from anything I'm remotely devil's advocating here. 

I think what has happened the past two seasons since the roster and coaching finally got to a place that it was competitive is very damning for the front office of the Jaguars.  The only reason Caldwell survived the 2018/2019 performance is that Tom Coughlin apparently came in and ran roughshod over the whole scene. Thus giving him some amnesty. 

I personally give Caldwell some leeway for getting the roster to a "should have been in the superbowl" level in 2017 even if the offense that year was flukey at best.  The problem is, they couldn't retain that foothold and build upon it and things, in fact, took a sharp turn downward. 

To the original point of your post that I responded to: 
 Caldwell's tenure has not surpassed Shack's era and its success because he has not paired a worthy roster with a staff worthy of leading them. At least that's the way I see it. He let the Khans lean on him with Bradley and now may ultimately be too loyal to Marrone and Wash.

I wish this season wasn't going to have the asterisk of *pandemic offseason* attached to it so we could get an unadulterated assessment.
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RE: Expectations/Plans for Jags new offense under Gruden - by NYC4jags - 06-02-2020, 08:33 PM



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