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Is Caldwell really that bad?

(This post was last modified: 06-29-2020, 05:20 PM by jaguarmvp.)

(06-29-2020, 04:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(06-29-2020, 03:32 PM)JackCity Wrote: your first paragraph is not actually based on any evidence. Tom most certainly did have his finger prints on the team year 1, numerous reports about that regarding draft/FA/philosophy/personnel decisions. 

And yes I don't think Tom did a good job either, in fact quite the opposite. But people love playing both sides of the Caldwell argument and excuse him for things went wrong but give him credit for the ones than went right. 

The reality is the team Caldwell and Tom "built", was not even slightly sustainable with massive holes on offense. So it's a myth that Caldwell built some powerhouse Tom tore down


Let's just spell this out plainly. 

Caldwell built a talent rich defensive roster and Tom played a major role in its demise. (Yan&Ramsey) 

The offensive side of the ball and the overall staff was still found lacking regardless of Caldwell and Coughlin's efforts.
To be blunt, 2017 would not have happened without Coughlin.  As I stated earlier Campbell and a few other free agents came here because of Coughlin.  Also his discipline can also be attributed to the winning in 2017.  The truth is he was a fall guy last year.   Sure he made bad decisions but the whole front office deserves some blame for the disaster of last year.  I remember Marrone talking about taking it easy in practices and such.   Tom was the fall guy.  

Since 2013 this team has a mountain of salary cap, tons of ammunition with top 5 picks in the draft, and a state that has no income tax.  This team is rebuilding yet again and Caldwell has been the man the majority of it.  Most people agree he should of been fired.  I remember the reaction that this front office was going to return this year.  It was mostly negative across the board because most fans are tired of the crap.
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Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-02-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by icey14 - 06-02-2020, 12:42 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by MalabarJag - 06-02-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-02-2020, 12:57 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by surfon - 06-02-2020, 07:58 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by MarleyJag - 06-03-2020, 06:11 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by MarleyJag - 06-03-2020, 10:00 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Upper - 06-02-2020, 08:54 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaglou53 - 06-03-2020, 01:48 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-03-2020, 05:27 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-03-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by D-Money - 06-03-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by flsprtsgod - 06-03-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-03-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-03-2020, 12:17 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by FBT - 06-03-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Dimson - 06-04-2020, 10:50 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-05-2020, 07:15 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-05-2020, 11:25 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-05-2020, 12:29 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-05-2020, 02:07 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-05-2020, 07:43 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by rufftime - 06-04-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by DragonFury - 06-05-2020, 10:01 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-05-2020, 04:41 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-05-2020, 07:22 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-07-2020, 02:28 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by D-Money - 06-09-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-10-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by D-Money - 06-11-2020, 03:15 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-11-2020, 03:35 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by D-Money - 06-11-2020, 08:38 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-11-2020, 10:02 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-12-2020, 10:32 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by D-Money - 06-12-2020, 03:43 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-10-2020, 02:25 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Upper - 06-10-2020, 03:15 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-10-2020, 04:04 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Eric1 - 06-10-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by rufftime - 06-11-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-19-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-23-2020, 03:27 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-23-2020, 11:29 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-24-2020, 05:57 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-24-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-25-2020, 05:12 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Kane - 06-25-2020, 11:18 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-25-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-25-2020, 05:28 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-25-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-26-2020, 05:10 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-27-2020, 10:35 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by navyjagfan - 06-28-2020, 05:56 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by flsprtsgod - 06-28-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-29-2020, 05:41 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by MarleyJag - 06-24-2020, 07:00 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-24-2020, 12:03 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-24-2020, 06:12 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by uthill - 06-29-2020, 08:51 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NH3 - 06-29-2020, 11:49 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-29-2020, 12:37 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NH3 - 06-29-2020, 03:21 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-29-2020, 03:32 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-29-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-29-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-29-2020, 05:19 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NYC4jags - 06-29-2020, 05:53 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by uthill - 06-29-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-29-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by RicoTx - 06-29-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 06-30-2020, 05:50 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by NH3 - 07-01-2020, 07:21 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 06-29-2020, 02:45 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by RicoTx - 06-29-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-29-2020, 05:52 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-30-2020, 07:32 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 06-30-2020, 07:37 AM
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RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JackCity - 06-30-2020, 01:30 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by flsprtsgod - 07-02-2020, 08:54 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by rufftime - 06-30-2020, 12:47 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by JagJohn - 07-02-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 07-05-2020, 12:09 AM
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RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 07-05-2020, 01:31 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by flsprtsgod - 07-05-2020, 07:39 PM
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RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 07-06-2020, 05:08 PM
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RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by RicoTx - 07-06-2020, 09:18 PM
RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by jaguarmvp - 07-06-2020, 10:11 PM
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RE: Is Caldwell really that bad? - by Hurricane - 07-08-2020, 05:33 AM
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