(06-11-2020, 12:41 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(06-11-2020, 12:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: So no evidence of subversive funding, and no answer to what the actual goal of that funding may be. 

I'm just supposed to believe there is an evil force at work manipulating activists to do something bad, but we're not sure what exactly, and we know this because you read some books. 

OK.  Thanks for nothing, I guess. 

Also - comrade isn't a bad word. You are merely associating it to support your narrative. 
While we're on that - have you read the "what we believe statement" on the BLM website? 
Aside from the gender thing that is very divisive these days, it's not very controversial at all IMO. And it does not in any way lead me to believe it was written by wealthy backers with an evil mission. 

It's also very important to note that many of the millions of people walking around carrying "Black Lives Matter" banners at these protests have likely never even seen that website or associate themselves in any way with it. They merely support the idea of ending injustices against people of color by police.

I didn't say I couldn't provide it. I just said it would take too much time. Also, I didn't say they were evil. I said their values oppose American capitalism. I don't think they think they are evil, but I do think the methods they use are underhanded and manipulative. Also, if you read any communist philosophy at all, you would know how much BLM belief statements are directly connected to that mode of thought. I agree with your last statement. When I have taken my black friends to the BLM website, they immediately reject what's being advocated there. The slogan first, then you attack anyone that disagrees with BLM and their agenda. Subversion 101. 

Look, dude. I know this can come across as very conspiratorial. But what I listed in the previous post is all facts I have read or watched in videos. My hobby is history and philosophy. My degrees are in poli sci and international affairs. I like to follow evidence. I am very eager to understand individuals and their motivations. I rarely just throw out someone's opinions without carefully considering them unless it's Mikesez. Funding gets difficult once you get to the LLC level because of the laws that allow investors to donate anonymously, but you can see how these organizations are connected. 

I've shared the story about community organizers being tied to universities, whose funding was tied to other organizations before the money trail goes cold. There were 4 layers between Harvard and the group that trained my friend in Native American injustice. 3 more layers above it, then  you can't see who's funding it anymore. That money just isn't falling out of the sky. Community organizers are trained to go into communities and manufacture resentment so those people will vote for the group that is promising to resolve it (only they never do). You don't know how many layers there are to this onion until you start peeling them away.

You don't care about Tony Timpa. Why not? I have said repeatedly we can look at police reform. But the narrative has already become defund the police. Why? Why does those goal posts move so quickly. I can show you were these socialist philosophers say you should defund the police.... 50 years ago. I can show you where these philosophers wanted to destroy heteronormative practices (different name back then). I can show you were they wanted open borders back then. Why is it moving in that direction? We they just prophetic? Is that the inevitable tide of human evolution and a thing of destiny? Or is it part of an ideology that is being driven by a narrative that achieves it's goals then moves the goal posts?

My feelings were hurt for a moment, then I remembered you have a poli sci degree and still don't understand how logrolls work. You think letting Democrats pass one thing suddenly means they get to pass all of the things.  We still use Robert's Rules of Order in the legislatures ... not Stalin's.... We'll be fine.  The adults will manage this.

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