(06-11-2020, 04:05 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(06-11-2020, 02:36 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Take a look at the pictures of some of the "monuments" that they want to remove.  That's from The Florida Times Union.  Most of them are merely signs that tell the history of the area.  They are in fact, making an attempt at removing history.

Here is an example of one such "monument".  The photo comes from the University of North Florida Historic Architecture Main Gallery.  Explain to me why it's so "offensive" that it needs to be taken down.  Explain how it's not removing history.

On some of them I agree with you, but with a lot of others, I would take them down.  Signs that tell history without glorifying the Confederacy, I would tend to leave up.  

About that particular sign- 1914 Confederate Veterans Reunion- I don't see any historical importance to that sign.  And the monument to the women of the confederacy- I'd take that one down.  Those women are not heroes and they're not deserving of that type of memorial.  

But I'd take it on a case by case basis.

I agree 100%. Memorials of honor are one thing. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the walls with all the names of those who paid with their lives on the fields of battle, signs that inform the public of what happened in that location. But to glorify anyone or anything that was a dishonor or disgrace to anyone? No. 

Learning more about this confederate stuff now (and as an adult because anything I learned in school has long been forgotten) has been an eye opener. I get that the flag itself had different meaning before it was hijacked and used for an agenda (much like the American flag has been) and I guess that's what some hold onto, that original idea. Then you have the racist jackholes. I still say let people make their own decisions on that front and they deal with the consequences. All the other stuff, take down the statues and if warranted place a plaque in its place that speaks to the who, what, where and when without glorifying any of it. The facts. That's it.

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