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Seattle has fallen.....


(10-29-2020, 12:44 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-29-2020, 02:54 AM)TurndownforWatt Wrote: They said on court TV live that due to budget cuts 2/3rds of the Philadelphia police force do not have tazers.. You can't make this [BLEEP] up. This is what happens when you defund the police. We should be giving them more tools in their toolbelt.. Preferably more less lethal options. (it's 2020, new technology needs to be created. These cops didn't even have a less lethal option, before they pulled their sidearm.. That's ridiculous, how do we expect these people to do their jobs if we aren't even properly funding/supplying them.  Think about it, if those Cops just had tazers, that guy might still be alive right now. Defunding the police will only further cost lives. It'll be a "perp gets shot and killed.. mass riot" never ending cycle.

I agree it would be nice if more cops in Philly had tazers.  

I would add, I don't know if it applies to this particular case, but a lot of these situations call for de-escalation as well as less lethal options.  Just because the guy has a knife out and isn't complying with verbal orders, doesn't mean he's a second away from stabbing someone.

Deescalation is nice if there is time or you're dealing with a reasonably rational person. This guy was bipolar. Mental illness can make people extremely unpredictable and you can't always reason with them. People on drugs are not in their right mind and don't understand or listen to reason either. These folks are in a different category than the rational guy not complying with police because he's "just a black man minding my own business," or does something stupid and gets shot and killed in the process.
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Seattle has fallen..... - by The Drifter - 06-10-2020, 03:06 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-10-2020, 04:58 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagNGeorgia - 06-10-2020, 05:36 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-10-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Drifter - 06-10-2020, 05:48 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 06-11-2020, 06:58 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-11-2020, 07:04 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by p_rushing - 06-11-2020, 12:42 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-11-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by p_rushing - 06-11-2020, 04:40 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-10-2020, 07:38 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by wrong_box - 06-11-2020, 12:59 PM
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RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-11-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by rollerjag - 06-11-2020, 06:00 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by wrong_box - 06-12-2020, 12:08 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-13-2020, 09:35 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-13-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-13-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-11-2020, 01:03 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-11-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-11-2020, 01:30 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-11-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagJohn - 06-11-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-11-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagJohn - 06-11-2020, 03:59 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-11-2020, 04:08 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 06-11-2020, 04:13 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-11-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-11-2020, 04:30 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 04:40 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-11-2020, 02:29 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-11-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-11-2020, 03:30 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-11-2020, 04:03 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 06-11-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 04:58 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 06-11-2020, 04:34 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-11-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 06:16 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-11-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by rollerjag - 06-11-2020, 09:05 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-11-2020, 09:45 PM
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RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 06-11-2020, 05:25 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by MalabarJag - 06-11-2020, 05:44 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by rollerjag - 06-11-2020, 06:01 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-11-2020, 07:04 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-11-2020, 07:13 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-11-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-11-2020, 08:03 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagJohn - 06-11-2020, 09:16 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by rollerjag - 06-11-2020, 09:08 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 06-12-2020, 06:04 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-11-2020, 08:54 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-13-2020, 09:22 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-13-2020, 11:56 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-13-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by MalabarJag - 06-13-2020, 02:29 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 03:08 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Drifter - 06-13-2020, 03:38 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-13-2020, 04:21 PM
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RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-13-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-13-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-13-2020, 08:22 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-13-2020, 08:55 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 09:39 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 08:10 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by MalabarJag - 06-14-2020, 11:05 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 03:39 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Bchbunnie4 - 06-14-2020, 04:29 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 06:01 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 11:19 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Drifter - 06-18-2020, 01:23 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 01:25 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-18-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-18-2020, 04:54 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 04:56 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-18-2020, 05:07 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-22-2020, 04:27 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 06-23-2020, 07:35 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-22-2020, 09:06 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 06-22-2020, 09:34 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 06-22-2020, 10:33 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-22-2020, 11:05 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Drifter - 06-23-2020, 12:42 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-23-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 06-23-2020, 08:52 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by p_rushing - 06-23-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by MalabarJag - 06-23-2020, 07:04 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sneakers - 06-24-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 06-23-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 06-23-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TrivialPursuit - 06-24-2020, 09:14 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-24-2020, 01:30 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TrivialPursuit - 06-24-2020, 01:40 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-24-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TrivialPursuit - 06-24-2020, 02:02 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-24-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-25-2020, 03:06 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 06-25-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-25-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 06-25-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-25-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 06-25-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-25-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sammy - 06-25-2020, 05:24 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 06-27-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TJBender - 06-25-2020, 11:18 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-30-2020, 04:18 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 07-01-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 07-01-2020, 10:45 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-01-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 07-01-2020, 11:30 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by americus 2.0 - 07-01-2020, 12:19 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-01-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jagibelieve - 07-01-2020, 02:16 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-01-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-01-2020, 10:54 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-02-2020, 09:09 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 07-02-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-02-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-02-2020, 01:20 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 07-02-2020, 01:47 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-02-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by americus 2.0 - 07-02-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by jagibelieve - 07-02-2020, 05:53 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 07-02-2020, 12:08 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Senor Fantastico - 07-02-2020, 04:16 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 07-02-2020, 04:30 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Senor Fantastico - 07-03-2020, 01:36 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-07-2020, 05:20 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 07-08-2020, 01:37 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 07-08-2020, 05:50 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-08-2020, 07:35 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-08-2020, 07:45 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 08:25 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 07-08-2020, 08:54 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by jj82284 - 07-08-2020, 10:35 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 11:45 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 07:04 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 07-08-2020, 09:14 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-08-2020, 09:30 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 10:30 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 07-08-2020, 02:02 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 02:53 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 03:58 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 07:20 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-08-2020, 07:50 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 07-08-2020, 08:57 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by The Real Marty - 07-09-2020, 08:07 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 07-09-2020, 08:34 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-09-2020, 09:45 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-09-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-09-2020, 09:56 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 07-09-2020, 08:24 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by HURRICANE!!! - 07-09-2020, 08:47 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 07-09-2020, 08:51 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 07-09-2020, 08:53 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 07-10-2020, 08:19 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-10-2020, 08:27 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 07-10-2020, 08:34 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 07-14-2020, 11:39 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-14-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 07-14-2020, 01:12 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-08-2020, 11:12 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 07-09-2020, 07:23 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-10-2020, 08:36 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 07-11-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 07-11-2020, 09:40 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 07-11-2020, 03:28 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 09-23-2020, 08:07 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TrivialPursuit - 09-23-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 09-23-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 09-23-2020, 08:24 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Jagwired - 09-23-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Norman Mushari - 09-23-2020, 12:38 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by JagNGeorgia - 09-23-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 10-12-2020, 08:08 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-12-2020, 08:18 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by p_rushing - 10-12-2020, 08:52 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 10-12-2020, 10:39 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-12-2020, 11:02 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 10-12-2020, 12:47 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-28-2020, 09:41 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 10-28-2020, 10:12 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-29-2020, 02:54 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-29-2020, 06:21 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 10-29-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 10-29-2020, 01:24 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 10-29-2020, 03:41 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 10-29-2020, 03:50 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-29-2020, 07:50 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 10-29-2020, 09:18 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-30-2020, 12:21 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-29-2020, 03:06 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 10-29-2020, 03:23 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by mikesez - 10-29-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by americus 2.0 - 10-30-2020, 12:20 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Sneakers - 10-29-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 10-29-2020, 12:53 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by homebiscuit - 10-29-2020, 08:41 AM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by Lucky2Last - 10-29-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-29-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by flsprtsgod - 10-29-2020, 03:17 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by p_rushing - 10-29-2020, 03:23 PM
RE: Seattle has fallen..... - by TurndownforWatt - 10-29-2020, 03:34 PM



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