StroudCrowd1 setup for watching the Fox Evening Lineup (Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham)

Pretty much.

Where's the roll of paper towels?

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What’s the deal with Jim Jordan?

This guy JackCity fantasizes about Jim Jordan pinning him to the mat wearing wrestling gear. It's kind of disturbing.

Only one of us declared they were a big fan of his!

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Pretty much.

Where's the roll of paper towels?

On the kitchen counter this week. With Kilmeade filling in, it just isn't the same.

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https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal...rotesters/

Federal agents in unmarked vehicles are arresting people without explanation and without identifying themselves.

The mayor and governor in Portland have demanded this stop immediately.

Interim head of DHS says they need to do this to restore law and order, but, when asked, the only example of recent "lawlessness" is graffiti.

What's going on here?

Must be fake news since no other reports about this.  Either way I'm all for rounding up the "protesters" and getting them out of there by whatever means necessary.  I hope that law enforcement whether federal or local wear the proper PPE.  No telling what these scumbags have.  They probably also have to watch for the hazard of needles around there.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status...02305?s=19

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https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status...02305?s=19

I have 0 problem with federal officers protecting federal courthouses. 
I do expect them to announce their presence and publicize who they are detaining and why, though.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status...02305?s=19

I have 0 problem with federal officers protecting federal courthouses. 
I do expect them to announce their presence and publicize who they are detaining and why, though.

Hmph, we agree.

Though I think the next step is trial and firing squad and you probably don't see it that way.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Ironic that all these lovers of Liberty and Freedom and The Constitution support a president who has deployed agents to a city to drive around like the Gestapo or the KGB in unmarked vans and kidnap people off the street with no warrant or charge.  

If Obama had done such a thing the reaction would have been explosive.   But since their man Trump did this... nothing.  Silence.

All you Constitutionalists, lovers of Liberty and Freedom, this is who Trump is.  If he could arrest all his opponents, he would do it.

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Ironic that all these lovers of Liberty and Freedom and The Constitution support a president who has deployed agents to a city to drive around like the Gestapo or the KGB in unmarked vans and kidnap people off the street with no warrant or charge.  

If Obama had done such a thing the reaction would have been explosive.   But since their man Trump did this... nothing.  Silence.

All you Constitutionalists, lovers of Liberty and Freedom, this is who Trump is.  If he could arrest all his opponents, he would do it.

If the locals had arrested these rioters then the Feds wouldn't have to step in. At some point the actual people of Portland need to be protected from these leftists, and if the local government won't do it then it's up to the adults.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Ironic that all these lovers of Liberty and Freedom and The Constitution support a president who has deployed agents to a city to drive around like the Gestapo or the KGB in unmarked vans and kidnap people off the street with no warrant or charge.  

If Obama had done such a thing the reaction would have been explosive.   But since their man Trump did this... nothing.  Silence.

All you Constitutionalists, lovers of Liberty and Freedom, this is who Trump is.  If he could arrest all his opponents, he would do it.

Well  said from someone who doesn't have a small business or family in Portland. If this was your city, you would be kissing Dons ring and you know it.

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Ironic that all these lovers of Liberty and Freedom and The Constitution support a president who has deployed agents to a city to drive around like the Gestapo or the KGB in unmarked vans and kidnap people off the street with no warrant or charge.  

If Obama had done such a thing the reaction would have been explosive.   But since their man Trump did this... nothing.  Silence.

All you Constitutionalists, lovers of Liberty and Freedom, this is who Trump is.  If he could arrest all his opponents, he would do it.

If the locals had arrested these rioters then the Feds wouldn't have to step in. At some point the actual people of Portland need to be protected from these leftists, and if the local government won't do it then it's up to the adults.

So you're okay with the federal government taking over local law enforcement and kidnapping people off the streets without a warrant or a charge.  Got it.  

Do you believe in following the Constitution?  Or would you just throw that out?  

The Constitution gives the federal government limited powers.  The 10th Amendment says that all powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved to the states.  Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government law enforcement authority over ordinary crimes.  So the federal government "stepping in," as you put it, is unconstitutional.  Not to mention kidnapping people and holding them without a warrant or a charge, which is also obviously unconstitutional.  

Keep in mind, this is not the federal government "assisting" the local government.  The local government has asked (demanded, actually) that the federal government immediately cease doing this sort of stuff.  

I thought you said you are voting for the Libertarian candidate for President.  This is the opposite of libertarianism.

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50 straight days of riots and anarchy here Marty. 50!

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If the locals had arrested these rioters then the Feds wouldn't have to step in. At some point the actual people of Portland need to be protected from these leftists, and if the local government won't do it then it's up to the adults.

So you're okay with the federal government taking over local law enforcement and kidnapping people off the streets without a warrant or a charge.  Got it.  

Do you believe in following the Constitution?  Or would you just throw that out?  

The Constitution gives the federal government limited powers.  The 10th Amendment says that all powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved to the states.  Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government law enforcement authority over ordinary crimes.  So the federal government "stepping in," as you put it, is unconstitutional.  Not to mention kidnapping people and holding them without a warrant or a charge, which is also obviously unconstitutional.  

I thought you said you are voting for the Libertarian candidate for President.  This is the opposite of libertarianism.

careful, you might find out they actually don't believe anything they say about the rights of the individual

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50 straight days of riots and anarchy here Marty. 50!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/opini...gents.html

"Portland has loomed large for a while at places like Fox News as a hotbed of radical leftist activism, though I guess we’ve earned that now over the last few weeks. One of the things I think people get wrong about this place, though, is that they see the protests and the right-wing coverage and the city is depicted as convulsed and collapsing. It’s just not true. You go three blocks from the center of downtown and life goes on as normal. Where I live, you could go every day and see no real signs of the protests."

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https://twitter.com/CDCarter13/status/12...54593?s=19

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If the locals had arrested these rioters then the Feds wouldn't have to step in. At some point the actual people of Portland need to be protected from these leftists, and if the local government won't do it then it's up to the adults.

So you're okay with the federal government taking over local law enforcement and kidnapping people off the streets without a warrant or a charge.  Got it.  

Do you believe in following the Constitution?  Or would you just throw that out?  

The Constitution gives the federal government limited powers.  The 10th Amendment says that all powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved to the states.  Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government law enforcement authority over ordinary crimes.  So the federal government "stepping in," as you put it, is unconstitutional.  Not to mention kidnapping people and holding them without a warrant or a charge, which is also obviously unconstitutional.  

Keep in mind, this is not the federal government "assisting" the local government.  The local government has asked (demanded, actually) that the federal government immediately cease doing this sort of stuff.  

I thought you said you are voting for the Libertarian candidate for President.  This is the opposite of libertarianism.

Local governments have demanded such of the feds in the past when the locals were refusing to protect the civil rights of their citizens. It's taken the FBI, the National Guard, and other federal agencies to end those behaviors and this in no different. The spirit of Libertarianism is the protection of individual rights, including the protection of those rights from the Mob and from colluding local officials.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I have 0 problem with federal officers protecting federal courthouses. 
I do expect them to announce their presence and publicize who they are detaining and why, though.

Hmph, we agree.

Though I think the next step is trial and firing squad and you probably don't see it that way.

They shouldn't be going around out of uniform.
They shouldn't be going around in unmarked cars.
They shouldn't be going more than a block away from the building that they're supposed to be protecting. In fact, if they were really just protecting a building, where is the barricade? Manned barricades protect buildings, not roving bands of out-of-uniform soldiers. 
All of this looks a little too much like Germany in 1932...
They should be regularly explaining to the public what they are doing, who they are detaining, and why.

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So you're okay with the federal government taking over local law enforcement and kidnapping people off the streets without a warrant or a charge.  Got it.  

Do you believe in following the Constitution?  Or would you just throw that out?  

The Constitution gives the federal government limited powers.  The 10th Amendment says that all powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved to the states.  Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government law enforcement authority over ordinary crimes.  So the federal government "stepping in," as you put it, is unconstitutional.  Not to mention kidnapping people and holding them without a warrant or a charge, which is also obviously unconstitutional.  

Keep in mind, this is not the federal government "assisting" the local government.  The local government has asked (demanded, actually) that the federal government immediately cease doing this sort of stuff.  

I thought you said you are voting for the Libertarian candidate for President.  This is the opposite of libertarianism.

Local governments have demanded such of the feds in the past when the locals were refusing to protect the civil rights of their citizens. It's taken the FBI, the National Guard, and other federal agencies to end those behaviors and this in no different. The spirit of Libertarianism is the protection of individual rights, including the protection of those rights from the Mob and from colluding local officials.

protecting a federal courthouse is a laudable goal, but it has nothing to do with individual rights.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Hmph, we agree.

Though I think the next step is trial and firing squad and you probably don't see it that way.

They shouldn't be going around out of uniform.
They shouldn't be going around in unmarked cars.
They shouldn't be going more than a block away from the building that they're supposed to be protecting. In fact, if they were really just protecting a building, where is the barricade? Manned barricades protect buildings, not roving bands of out-of-uniform soldiers. 
All of this looks a little too much like Germany in 1932...
They should be regularly explaining to the public what they are doing, who they are detaining, and why.

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Local governments have demanded such of the feds in the past when the locals were refusing to protect the civil rights of their citizens. It's taken the FBI, the National Guard, and other federal agencies to end those behaviors and this in no different. The spirit of Libertarianism is the protection of individual rights, including the protection of those rights from the Mob and from colluding local officials.

protecting a federal courthouse is a laudable goal, but it has nothing to do with individual rights.

So you say. I say restoring order to a lawless city has everything to do with individual rights.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Has there been any real proof that people are being arrested, or are they still going on the image-less video and the word of the protester?

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Has there been any real proof that people are being arrested, or are they still going on the image-less video and the word of the protester?

Customs and Immigration took one person into custody, questioned him at the courthouse and then released him. Other than that I've seen nothing but reports of reports of the protestors' claims.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato